Re: The clique is shrinking.

On 11 Feb, 17:21, Adrian <toomany2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Doug <jag...@xxxxxxxxxx> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

Only because I
Let me correct you, what you should have said is "failed to understand
the T&C's I'd signed up to"
managed to outdo the AUP abuse from the clique for a change with a
few well chosen words.
How is you losing your account with an ISP after people complained
about you a victory for yourself?
You mean apart from breaking the contract? Well it illustrated the
providers vulnerability and paranoia, among other things.

Only you would regard having your connection pulled as a political
victory.

Well it did have economic advantages for me too. Besides, there are
so many other ways of getting on line, which makes the puny attempts
of the wannabe censors who try to dominate this newsgroup quite
hilarious.


BTW, talking of State censorship have you read this?

"This Monday (9 February 2009), Kent Police arrested a man in Sheffield
under the Serious Crime Act 2007 in relation to the recent Indymedia
server seizure. His home was raided, all computer equipment and related
papers taken. He was released after eight hours. The person had neither
technical, administrative nor editorial access to the Indymedia UK
website. He was only associated to the project by hosting its server.

The arrest took place under Section 44-46 of the Serious Crime Act,
which was passed into law on 1st October 2008 to combat serious
international crime like drug trafficking, prostitution, money
laundering and armed robbery. Sections 44-46 refer to “encouraging or
assisting offences”..."

You can see why providers get paranoid.

No, I can't.

No? They are not only vulnerable to expensive corporate litigation but
they also risk being raided by the police and having equipment
confiscated.

And...

"With the implementation of the EU Data Retention Directive in March
2009, the UK government attempts to turn every internet service
provider in the country into part of the law enforcement apparatus."


The server which was seized because an Indymedia poster blatantly broke
the law and published the personal details of a judge whose legal
decision he disagreed with, inciting violence towards that judge, was
hosted under an account paid for by this guy in his own name.

You are, of course, quite wrong yet again. The details had been
removed by the time the server was seized by the police.

The provider - the host whose facilities it was in, and who he was paying
for it - have suffered no legal inconvenience whatsoever.

Being raided and having their equipment seized by cops is no laughing
matter.

Oh, and he was released a few hours later without charge. Merely "helping
with enquiries". He was probably only arrested because he refused to
assist voluntarily.

You just don't know do you. I never ceased to be amazed how some on
this NG are happy to accept the insidious growth of State political
repression without a murmur. Remember the book-burning of the Nazis?

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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin

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