Re: Car or train or plane. Check your pollution.
- From: openbahn@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 30, 6:37 pm, "Mike P" <priv...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Doug" <jag...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On 30 Jun, 12:43, %ste...@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Steve Firth) wrote:
Doug <jag...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"This is a great new tool for European travel which can also serve as
an
inspiration for similar activities in other parts of the word.
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahaaha
A propaganda site for rail, which assumes that on a long distance car
trip that anyone would travel with half a passenger.
It compares three modes of travel where trains are actually more
polluting in a just few instances.
Meanwhile, in the real world... for a journey which I do regularly this
site shows a comforting graph with a small green bar for emissions when
using the TGV and a huge orange bar for the same journey by car.
i.e. 54 tonnes CO2 for the route by train and 177 tonnes by car.
But the 54 tonne figure is per passenger. The figure for the car doesn't
change even if the car is full, and I usually take these long journeys
with my family.
Your personal anecdotal cherry picking doesn't count. The average
occupancy of cars is 1.6 so the car is 110 tonnes CO2 per passenger.
So for this particular journey, the family figures are
216 tonnes by rail, and if I did the journey in a BMW 3-series diesel it
would emit 197 tonnes of CO2. If I were less ostentatious in my choice
of transport (Ford Focus) I could get there for 184 tonnes of CO2 and if
I wanted to subject a family to the horror of a journey by Prius (still
nicer than any journey by train) 160 tonnes.
Oh, and any of the cars would get to my destination before the train.
So you only care about speed and not pollution? Typical!
Try again Bozo.
Meanwhile for anyone who wants a "great new tool for European travel",
rather than the opinion of an old tool like Duhg, there's:
http://www.whatgreencar.com/
There is no such thing as a 'green car'. Stop banging on about your
greenwash rubbish, Filth. It was bad enough with your boasts about a
'carbon neutral home' but now 'green cars'? LOL!
In this case, it's obviously that travelling the journey Steve compared to a
train, with passengers is greener than a train. What's your problem fuckwit?
Can't understand simple facts? Or is it that it's not from the Daily Heil,
so it cannot possibly be true?
Mike P
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