Re: UK roads more dangerous for kids; less dangerous for adults
- From: "Brimstone" <brimstone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:33:29 +0100
Doug wrote:
On 1 Jul, 16:59, "Brimstone" <brimst...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Doug wrote:By slowing down in the presence of peds.
On 29 Jun, 08:17, "Brimstone" <brimst...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 28 Jun, 20:45, Fod <friendsofde...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 28 Jun, 18:08, allan tracy <thunderbird57...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bit of a mixed bag. Despite traffic going up the levels of
KSI have
stayed much the same ( lower for adults but higher for kids).
The kids figure is the same as it was 2 years ago.
Heavy traffic, kids and pedestrians is never going to be a
great mix.
The kids figure may be the same but it's still one of the
worst in Europe and you can throw the blame around as much as
you like speeding, bad driving or stupid kids but the real
reason the rest of Europe kill fewer kids is because in and
around their cities there is
much greater reliance on public transport and by that I don't
mean buses.
Take somewhere like Coventry compared to say Dusseldorf.
Coventry has
three main line rail stations and about twenty to thirty bus
routes.
Dussledorf has around ten main line rail stations three
underground lines and around fifteen light rail / tram routes
and that's typical for most of Europe.
I used a bus for the first time in fifteen years recently it
took me nearly two hours and three buses to travel what would
take ten minutes
in a car - f**k that.
like you say; its not just the lack of pt is the fact is never
joined up.
I'd be willing to get the bus to work but none of the three
buses i would need are syncronised ( and the last one on the
way home finishes before i do)
What we need is for these killers to be taken off our roads for
good, instead of the usual slap on the hand while blaming the
victim.
You still haven't properly established who is the victim.
Self evidently the victims are the one who gets killed/injured and
their family.
Why "self evidently"? If someone is playing "chicken" runs out into
the road and gets hit by an oncoming vehicle that they failed to
take account of when the driver of the vehicle was behaving well
within the law how is that person the "victim"?
They are the victim because they suffered the most.
Thank ytou for clarrifying that "victim" is another word you don't
understand.
The driver failed
to allow sufficient stopping distance.
If someone runs out into the road inside the vehicle's stopping
distance how can the driver allow a greater stopping distance?
How slow should the go?
The deliberate act is climbing behind the wheel in the full knowledge
But as you well know, many ped
victims are not playing chicken and are killed while THEY are using
the road or pavement lawfully.
I "know" no such thing. I hear of the occasional driver having a
heart attack and the vehicle going out of control and crashing in to
other road users. But whilst that is regretable it's hardly a
deliberate act by the driver is it?
that cars can be lethal.
That'll be why you rely on motor vehicles for your chosen lifestyle then
will it? Aiding and abetting deliberately violent acts.
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