Re: Streets reclaimed from petrol-heads!


Fod wrote:
iiiiDougiiii wrote:
If a pedestrian walks out into the road without looking, and is hit by
something tavelling along the road, is it the fault of the pedestrian
or the thing travelling along the road?

It is the fault of the least vulnerable. I suppose if a baby crawled
into the road and was run over you would blame the baby.
and you don't think the parent or legal guardians should accept any
blame in this scenario?

Only if they are in control, which they may not be.

In our society
the vulnerable have to be trained to accept liability, to ensure the
maximum freedom of the least vulnerable. It is merely the law of the
jungle slightly disguised by a thin veil of civilisation.
the vulnerable in society have guardians who hold responsiblity for
their well being. Kids don't raise themselves after all...

Then how do you account for the fact that sometimes society accepts
responsibility for kids?

Are you suggesting its ok for someone to go away on holiday and leave
young children to fend for themselves as thats in line with you
suggesting its ok for very young kids with no road sense to be running
around.

Kids no longer have anywhere to run around free from the danger of the
mass car cult.

Both the driver and the person hit can have responsiblity for a road
accident. Sometimes it could be entirely one persons fault. Generally
the driver will have the greater responsiblity as they are in control
of the vehicles and are licensed to use it safetly.

Surely it is the person in charge of the dangerous machine who should
be made to accept responsibility.

Personally I think pedestrians acting in a dangerous or careless
fashion must accept some blame if they cause an accient. I'm not
trying to avoid blaming the driver when its appropriate to do so but
i'm not going to pretend that its always the driver that is the cause.

It is not an 'accident' it is a crash. The word 'accident' is used as a
convenient euphemism for a road kill and to divert blame from the
powerful perpetrator to the vulnerable victim.

I've had kids run out in front of me because they've been playing and
not paying attention despite being on or beside a road. Whilst i've
observed them and reduced my speed and been able to stop in time, thus
preventing an accident, I don't feel that i'm to blame for my emergancy
stop and don't think I'm the person behaving dangerously in that
scenario.

You should drive at a suitable speed for the conditions anyway. If you
are able to observe children on the pavement, despite a line of parked
cars, then you should slow down.

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