Re: best way to get around london for 3&half days

On 25 Jan, 18:39, "John Salmon" <ihmfd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote

"John Salmon" wrote:
"MIG" wrote
And there's never been any proper reason for refusing to put day
travelcards on Oyster anyway. It's extra money up front, and the punter
still buys into the Oyster system.  Instead of charging an uncapped
maximum single fare for unresolved journeys, the system could charge a
day travelcard instead, and let the punter use it as such thereafter..
That sounds like a very good idea. Is there any technical reason why it
can't be done?
Why's it a good idea? There's absolutely no need or calling for it (esp..
now that PAYG is acceptable on NR) - if you want a Day Travelcard, you get
a Day Travelcard. Why totally muddy the waters by offering it on Oyster,
especially now.

Prior to this month I had been using Day Travelcards during most of my
visits to London, but I hoped and believed that this would no longer be
necessary now that all NR lines within the zones are included within the
validity of Oyster PAYG.  Unfortunately it is now clear that the behaviour
of Oyster PAYG at OSIs is seriously screwing things up for quite a few of
the regular posters on here and on uk.r.  I think both MIG and I are looking
for a solution that gets round this problem.  The suggestion that Day
Travelcards might be made capable of being put on Oyster seems to be one
such way.  Another would be to provide some means of definitively ending a
journey at a location classed as an OSI, i.e. a means of preventing the
system from linking journeys when the customer doesn't want this to happen.

I am rather surprised that an apparent advocate of Oyster should now be
seriously suggesting that some categories of passenger should need to take
the seemingly retrograde step of reverting to the use of paper Day
Travelcards.

Yes, I would have thought that the reason for putting day travelcards
on Oyster was the same as the reason for putting season travelcards on
Oyster. Apart from anything, it gets people to get an Oyster card in
their pocket. It also encourages people to pay more up front for the
convenience of total availability, even if they don't take total
advantage.

I think Mizter T is referring to the nonsense of the OEP as why it
wouldn't work (ie if you got the wrong zones, you'd be able to extend
with PAYG on LU but not NR). Well, yeah, but it's the OEP that's
nonsense, not the travelcard. And how likely are you to get the wrong
zones on a day travelcard, unlike the journeys you make during the
validity of a season?

I am genuinely bewildered by the strength of response to the
suggestion, particularly since I can't recall any valid arguments
against it.
.

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