Re: Complusory Bus Stops

In message <ZL4fVGB9K7wJFwsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> of Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:14:05 in uk.transport.london, Walter Briscoe <wbriscoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
In message <49c39369$0$3339$6e1ede2f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> of Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:00:23 in uk.transport.london, Batman55 <900728@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
"Roland Perry" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In message <72hcp0FpmsqrU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, at 11:25:20 on Fri, 20 Mar
2009, Barry Salter <salterg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> remarked:
There was a proposal floated that ALL bus stops would be treated as a
hybrid of the two types, based on observation of "normal" practice.
Namely:

1) All buses SHOULD stop at a bus stop if it looks like someone wishes to
board.

[snip]

I've just sent the following email to <mailto://customerservices.buses@xxxxxxxxxx> with the subject "Bus and Request stops":

I've just spoken to a helpful lady at TfL Surface Transport on the
difference between Bus Stops and Request Stops.
My understanding from this conversation is:
a) Bus stop flags at Bus Stops consist of a red roundel on a white background with "Bus Stop" underneath; bus stop flags at Request Stops consist of a white roundel on a red background with "Request Stop" underneath.
b) Buses will stop without a signal for pedestrians waiting at Bus Stops; buses will not stop without a signal for pedestrians waiting at request stops.
c) A signal is needed from passengers wishing to alight from buses at both Bus Stops and Request Stops.

This was not covered in the conversation, but I believe: buses will not pass buses stopped at stops unless the drivers can see no pedestrians are waiting, the bus is full or for other good reasons I can't think of. Please confirm this.

I was told that documentation on this is not yet publicly published. Please do so on the web and inform me of the URL.

In the meantime, please take this as a Freedom of Information Act request to make such documentation available to me.

You have my mailto; my PSTN number is (020) xxxx xxxx; my snail mail address is: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxx, London xxxx xxx.

I forgot to ask a question about buses running early on publicly timetabled services. About a month ago, I took a U1 - which operates a 15 minute interval service - from West Ruislip to Ruislip. The bus was 2 minutes early and I noted this to the driver who waited half a minute before continuing. I did not pursue the matter; I rarely go so far.

When I get a response, I will summarise it here. Don't hold your breath. I believe 20 working days are allowed for a response.
--
Walter Briscoe
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