Re: Be unlimited - anygood ?



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I May just stick with Nildram 'Lite 25Gb '£14.95 + BT's £11.25 rental + £BT 'anytime' £4.95 for calls = total £31.15 for 25Gb a month inc all 01,02,03 calls



that sounds awfully expensive for 25gb usage allowance?
surely you can get unlimited usage isps for less than that? - i'm on cable admittedly but my true 50mbit unlimited connection is only 37 a month.



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That's for :- BT Line rental + 'free' calls + inet Ah yes and off peak unmetered 6pm- 8am I think !

I guess you get what you pay for ! At the moment I pay BT rental £11.25 + Nildram unlimited (no longer sold) £19.99 inc 500 Minutes 01,02,03 calls = £31.24

BUT when we move house I don't think Nildram would transfer for my 'old' service over to a new exchange - as it is now, I expect the usual 'The product you have now is not on my system so I can't sell it to you'

Any other ideas ?? I 'need' about 25 Gb a month and free landline calls


Well what is 'free'? You pay, one way or the other.

I decided my phone usage was low, so went with a PAYG package at very cheap call rates. IDNET HOME PRO broadband an PAYG phone.

And hooked up VOIP via SIPGATE and a billion 7404VGP router ( the other usual alterntaive is a Draytek) so I have a second line that is also PAYG, costs no extra rental, and is damned good for international calls to the places I need.


The base cost is £35 for phone rental. 30GB peak and up to 60GB off peak (midnight to 9 a.m)

Phone calls are extra but at about 1/10th the BT rate.

So I have

two phone lines on different local numbers
30GB bandwidth
60GB off peak

and PAYG calls, for £35 a month.

Two line rentals and calls was costing me £50 a month and broadband on one a further £25 a month before I switched. I am using about £5 a month on phone calls.

Don't even ask what it used to cost when all I could get was 64k ISDN...

The router supports a third line, but SIPGATE support is dire so I have no idea how to get a second SIPGATE number activated. They seem to be based in Germany, and I suspect command of technical English is not their strongest point.

I will add one further point about using a VOIP phone. My actual real POTS line is slightly hissy due to the broadband, and its a bit quiet. The router gives me the option to crank up the volume on the microphone and recieved channels and this is brilliant for my wife, who is a tad deaf. Its also clearer and cleaner than the land line - even *without* broadband on it!.

And if I get the person I spend most time phoning onto SIPGATE as well, then calls will be FREE.

If your average bandwidth is less, then as long as you accept that the time you downloaded a complete set of service packs will cost a little extra, going for a 10GB package will save about £7.50 a month, plus £1 for every GB you use above that.

One of my biggest issues with claranet, was that they simply shut off my access when the limits were exceeded. And forced me to buy more than I needed. With IDNET, they simply add it to your bill.

I have to say that most fixed price contracts with 'free' calls or 'free' bandwidth give me the feeling that ultimately, they are based on a business model that you will buy more than you actually end up using, and be stuck with them for period in which they will make it very difficult to move. IDNET again score there, as all contracts are 1 month only (apart from uncontended ADSL and SDSL). so I can adjust the package as I see fit with very little penalty.


I like the whole approach..which seems to me to be 'look, this is our costs, plus our necessary margins, in a matrix of very simple packages that are flexible and can be tailored to meet your actual needs: we don't do free lunches, and we are not claiming to be the best at all things, we don't do news servers or stuff like that, but if you want unadorned bandwidth and a simple phone service, that's what we do'

Suits me.

YMMV.



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