Re: Slow Play in Matchplay
- From: "Malcolm Wadsworth" <mTHEwadsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:16:21 GMT
"Demetri (Durram)" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dragged from a previous non-related thread:(snip)
No rules officials about in club matchplays and claiming a hole may be
considered being a bit 'too' competitive for most.
Here are a couple of situations where I've struggled.
Playing club matchplay at our home course, albeit the Final, taking 4 3/4
hours, with no hold ups in front. My oppo seemed to me to be deliberately
slow in everything: pacing out puts etc making Langer like lightning! It
wasn't so much that he wasn't ready to take his shot when it was his turn,
he just took sooooooo long about it. What could I have done? Having been
well and truly rattled and just about giving up on the 19th hole any claim
may have seemed a bit trite.
Just recently, again in a club match play, green in front clear as we
stepped on to the tee, half-way house is open, oppo wants to go in for a
bun, I didn't (wanting to get on with losing the match as I was some
considerable number of holes behind by that time), there I am waiting like
a lemon for a few minutes and the shock on his face as I said "it's your
turn" as he was about to munch into his bun!
I'm all for a friendly, courteous and relaxed game but these two
situations at the time made me feel uncomfortable. I lost both games and
haven't mentioned it apart from just now as it always sounds dodgy
complaining about slow play in general but especially when you're on the
losing end.
"I'm claiming this hole because you are delaying play unduly, in breach of
Rule 6.7!" I just can't see it happening somehow without creating an enemy
for life.
The matter of personal judgement in the extraordinary cases in the
previous post seems to be relatively easy in comparison to a general
slowness. We do have pace of play timings on our score cards which are
very generous but there is no guidance that I can find anywhere as to what
they are there for or how we can use them.
And in the half way house situation, as the green was clear as we
initially stepped on to the tee, if we had both gone in, should we not
both be disqualified or does that come under the exception to 6.8? Further
by my not claiming the next hole was I in breach of waiving a RoG leading
to my own disqualification if I had won?
--
Grumpy Old Durram
The problem is that the culture at many clubs is that of so-called "social"
golf, whatever that means.
We need more golfers to apply the Rules of Golf without emotion and refuse
to argue whether it is sporting or unsporting.
Two immediate observations:
Most good clubs appoint referees for the finals of their KO matches.
There is little you can do about the pace of play unless the Committee has
set down the guidelines and how they and the penalties are to be applied.
You can try timing your opponent's stroke time, which is the time he takes
after he arrives at his ball and after allowing a few moments to select his
club, to playing his stroke, assuming the way ahead is clear for him to
play.
Then tell your opponent the time he has taken. After two or three such
timings where the time taken exceeds 50 seconds, warn him that you will make
a claim unless he reduces the time taken.
Keep timing him and if he remains outside that 50 seconds, inform him you
are claiming the hole for slow play.
Still keep timing him and informing him of his times and that your next
claim if upheld by the Committee will mean disqualification.
Do all this in a cool and professional manner without apologies.
Undue delay is rather different. Here we are not looking at such things as
the time taken over a stroke, but examples such as spending undue time
looking for tee peg, or chatting with a third party (whether in person or on
a mobile phone) or time spent looking for a ball which is no longer the ball
in play (provisional ball once original found; original once 5 minutes is
up; ball in a water hazard which will be clearly unplayable in two feet of
water!)
In the club up a tree or submerged golf trolley cases, in the absence of a
referee, note the start time; note the actions and if you feel the time
spent is becoming unacceptable, warn your opponent to abandon what he is
doing or recognise you will make a claim under 2-5 for a breach of 6-7 -
undue delay.
In match play, there usually is not a problem with stopping off at a halfway
house by agreement.
If an opponent wants to stop and you don't, or will not resume play when you
want to do so, your remedy is to claim the next hole under 6-8, the penalty
for which is disqualification.
Again, giving the opponent prior warning that if he stops or unless he
resumes, you will make a claim. That is the sporting bit!!
Remember that stopping at a halfway house to buy a drink, etc or to use
toilets is acceptable provided the player continues play as soon as
possible.
None of this comes under the umbrella of agreeing to waive a Rule since in
all cases there is a margin for judgement, whether exercised by a referee or
an opponent.
HTH,
Malcolm
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