Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- From: "*****General" <*****General@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:37:17 GMT
"Lescor" <lescor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:difuhq$i4r$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "*****General" <*****General@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Xzx2f.11865$Nv6.4335@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> "Lescor" <lescor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:didb0g$al$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> "POD {Ò¿Ó}" <DONT.EVEN.TRY.IT@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns96EB8E657A6EWeLovePOD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> His crap team scrape though to the world cup, he is so close to losing
>>>> his
>>>> job, but now that they have gotten through, this crotch stain is
>>>> talking
>>>> about winning the thing!?!?!
>>
>> It begs the question, who is more fickle? The fans, the media or 'the
>> crotch stain'?
>>
>>>
>>> He might do it too. Liverpool proved that it is possible to win a cup
>>> despite a poor manager who seemed out of his depth.
>>
>> You got it the wrong way round. The manager has a proven pedigree in
>> Europe but it was the plyers who were out of their depth.
>>
>>> I have always disliked Eriksson's methods. He seems to hand out
>>> caps as rewards to players in form ,like the worst England managers
>>> did way back, with little regard for a continuity of style and pattern.
>>> The concept of TEAM seems to play little part in his thinking or picks.
>>
>> ...when that should be the most important oart of the equation. Holland
>> and more recently France have shown what happens to a talented squad when
>> you take the word TEAM out.
>>
>>> Friendlies are used, not to give the first choice side more time to get
>>> some understanding, but to give the second string 20 mins, often out
>>> of position, to try to prove their worth. This is an idiotic policy for
>>> a side
>>> which suffers more from lack of familiarity rather than shortage of
>>> talent.
>>
>> It is also a problem that friendlies are not used to create a Plan B or
>> try out something completely different like a 3-5-2 formation. The 4-5-1
>> trial was a glimmer of hope but that came about more down to a knee-jerk
>> reaction rather than intricate planning and thus was doomed to failure
>> from the start.
>
>>> If the main strikers are likely to be Owen and the crazy kid, why play
>>> Crouch when one is unavailable rather than a player closer to the style
>>> of the one missing? The attacking style for a team with a lofty centre
>>> forward is not going to be the same as one with a player like Rooney.
>>
>> ....but it is good to have a Plan B for when Plan A doesn't work and
>> completely different strategy is needed. Even a Plan C is needed at this
>> level of competition and a Plan D wouldn't go amiss either for £4 million
>> a year. That us why you get to pick a 23-man squad not just a first-11.
>
> I agree. The side has to have some flexibility and be able to adapt from
> the usual by forced changes, But that is a different question. First
> establish
> the norm.
>
That's the problem. Sven has established the norm, regardless of whether it
works or not. He's established it so well that it is almost impossible to
change without major upheavals. For example dropping Beckham if there is a
better option. Sven will never do that for whatever reason and he is not man
enough to admit he made a mistake in appointing a prima-donna (even though
he is working hard to lose that image) as captain. He can't strip him of his
captaincy because of the consequences, not just to the team morale but also
the media frenzy that would follow.
>
>
>>
>>> Will Crouch play in the WC? Unlikely, unless forced by injury. Then we
>>> will,once again, be forced to adapt to a strange attack rather than slot
>>> in someone who is familiar with a style of play like the rest of the
>>> side.
>>
>> .If the training and preparation work was done properly then it wouldn't
>> be a new and strange tactic to adapt to. Rather a fluid and organised
>> change implemeted dynamically as and when the situation requires it.
>
> Agreed, but seems we will continue the 'experiment' for as far as we go?
>
There is always Euro '08 to look forward to.
>
>
>>
>>> Is it so difficult for him to understand? Look at any good league side
>>> like the recent Arsenal and Man U sides, Chelsea now, and certainly
>>> Pool in the past, and we see a team style. If any of these had to field
>>> 4 reserves the style of the side remains unchanged. Although it might
>>> lose a bit of skill it would still look and play in a way every member
>>> understood. Does anyone yet know what the England teams style is?
>>> One game back it was a lone striker with DB central of 5?
>>> Now a towering forward with DB on the right? What next?
>>
>> A 4-3-3 with any combination of Beckham,Wright-Phillips, Gerrard, Lampard
>> and Cole in the middle with the front three of Rooney, Owen and Crouch or
>> Defoe.
>
> It is a mouth watering prospect and one to put the fear of god into most
> rivals. It is even one which could come close to going all the way, and
> doing it with a touch of style.
>
.....add to that a formidable back line and the old English fighting spirit
then the equation is almost complete. It is only unbalanced by the tempered
and inept nature of Sven. Who knows, he may borrow some balls off Nancy
between now and then.
>
>
>>> This squad has more talent than the one which won the WC under
>>> Ramsey. But everyone in that group knew exactly what was expected of
>>> them and played as a team familiar with each other and the system,
>>> and this was the same for the reserves. Doubt if it will can ever
>>> happen
>>> with this man.
>>>
>>
>> ...and here's me thinking you were an optimist.
>
> It would soon return if I thought they might make you the manager -))
>
Maybe all this will be a moot point and England will answer the critics with
a magnificent performance against Poland and in the wave of fickleness all
this will be forgotten and everyone will be back on the pro-England
bandwagon. Maybe this bandwagon will roll on through the scheduled
friendlies right up until the placebo effect peaks in the summer. Then it
will be all down to the tournament itself. There can only be one outcome
then. The only outcome that will appease the masses this time will be a
historic victory. Anything less will be the end of Sven and consequently
maybe even the FA in its current shambles. The media and the fans will
collectively see to that.
We have the personnel on the pitch to perform great things and even, dare I
say it, dominate world football for a few years. The domestic league is seen
as the strongest in the world, which is further backed up by having an
English team as European Champions. The next dominant force in club
football, overtaking such luminaries as AC Milan and Real Madrid, will be
Chelsea, a team with a distinctly English backbone. All the ingredients are
in place, but if the chef can't break a few eggs and cook an omelette then
it will all be a moot point.
.
- References:
- Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- From: Lescor
- Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- From: *****General
- Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- From: Lescor
- Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- Prev by Date: Re: More Techie Advice - Internet Fraud
- Next by Date: Paco Herrera - 'the eyes of Rafa Benitez'.
- Previous by thread: Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- Next by thread: Re: Hands up who think Sven-Goran Eriksson is a twat?
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|
