Re: Hit the ball twice

On Apr 12, 5:24 pm, Robert Henderson <phi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In message <1176357665.351543.143...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Gavin Cawley <g...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes



You can't willfully play the ball with any part of your body or the bat
twice except for the purposes of protecting your wicket,

Which is the only thing you could possibly do, or at least, it would be
impossible in practice to prove intent to do otherwise. RH

Utter nonsense. The ball could hit the pad and bounce forward (so that
it is in no danger of going onto the wicket) and the batsman could hit
it for runs. The intent would be obvious, as indeed it would be in the
example that was given. Why not just accept you were wrong for once
rather than dig yourself deeper?

He would have to kick it in such circumstances.

Wrong, Doug Walters demonstrated how one could try and score runs by
playing it with his foot and then with the bat (as I mentioned in
another post). He would be given out "hit the ball twice" if he tried
it in a match, however *he* obviously though it a viable ploy to
counter the infamous Trevor Chappel underarm delivery at the time, so
it is not inconceivable that it could happen in a game (obviously no
longer in the same circumstances).

It would be impossible
to score a leg bye that way because no shot would be offered. Next! RH .

Wrong, the batsman could play a forward defensive (and hence is
playing a shot), misses with the bat and the ball bounces up of the
pad and he has quick enough reactions to hit the ball with the bat for
a leg bye as a shot had been offered. Equally the ball could hit the
batsman taking evasive action, if he deliberately then played it with
the bat to gain a leg bye he would be out hit the ball twice.

By the way, the umpire doesn't need to prove anything, it is his
opinion that matters, this is not a court of law, but a game of
cricket.

Yes, but he would have to determine intent which in the context of
cricket would be next to impossible

Wrong, willfully hitting the ball twice and then setting off for a run
would be a pretty good indication (duh!). If the non-striker called
for the run that would be another matter.

because no legbye can be scored
without offering a shot. rH

As I pointed out above it is possible that a shot was played, or
evasive action was taken, so it is not impossible. Have you never
played?

There is also the point that the batsman may not be aware of the laws
and not realise that a leg bye won't be given and try it anyway.
There is also the possibility that the umpire will get it wrong and
give a leg bye, does happen.

so if you flip it up with your toe so you can hit it for six it is out
on appeal hit the ball twice.

--
Robert Henderson
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--
Robert Henderson
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Personal website:http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk


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