Re: Crying in the wind



On Nov 6, 4:27 pm, Alastair <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:38 am, Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Anyone with a lot more ability than me and of course access to the
exquisite willing to give me an hand with this:

Mountain Winds May Create Atmospheric Hotspots

WASHINGTON - Rapidly fluctuating wind gusts blowing over mountains and
hills can create "hotspots" high in the atmosphere and significantly
affect regional air temperatures. A research paper to be published
this month in the Journal of Geophysical Research-Space Physics
reports that the actions of such winds can create high-frequency
acoustic waves and could stimulate a 1000-Kelvin [1,000-degree
Celsius; 2,000-degree Fahrenheit] spike in a short period of time in
the thermosphere, at an altitude of 200-300 kilometers [100-200
miles]. Such exceptional temperature increases would require
continuous waves, and the heating rate would likely be diminished with
intermittent winds.

Ocean waves and earthquakes are known to produce similar waves, which
strengthen as they propagate higher in the atmosphere. The authors
speculate that the waves can heat the atmosphere at prodigious rates
and could account for a large part of the unusual and unexplained high-
altitude background heating seen above the mountainous landscape in
parts of South America.<<<<

[I'm looking at warm pool causes and want to get a little more
circumspection before dipping my feet in.]

"We show that that the acoustic waves generated by gusty flow over
rough terrain might be a significant source of heating in the upper
atmosphere," Hickey says. "These mysterious so-called 'hotspots'
observed above the Andes Mountains could be explained by such acoustic
wave heating."

Previous observations near the Andes Mountains in Peru had found that
the atmosphere directly above some peaks was approximately 100 Kelvin
[100 degrees Celsius; 200 degrees Fahrenheit] hotter than in nearby
regions and that the difference occasionally reached as much as 400
Kelvin [400 degrees Celsius; 700 degrees Fahrenheit].

[How does this sort of stuff redound? (Wild guesses accepted.)]

Other research had recorded similar effects near the Rocky Mountains
in Colorado. After comparing simulations of atmospheric gravity waves
and acoustic waves, the researchers found that the acoustic waves
reached higher altitudes than the gravity waves, leading them to
speculate that the acoustic waves constituted a far more plausible
source of the observed hot spots. They then identified wind
fluctuations as the most likely source of the heating, noting that the
upwind waves could only be generated by unsteady wind flow.

They cite further evidence indicating that the high- frequency
acoustic waves in the thermosphere originated from the ground,
including proof that nighttime atmospheric motion (convection) is not
a plausible source of the persistent heating. In addition, they note
that only high-frequency acoustic waves could cause the thermospheric
heating, as the slower-speed gravity waves are not fast enough to
reach the higher altitudes and therefore could not produce the
substantial effects at that height in the atmosphere.

The paper indicates that moderately strong winds, reaching speeds of
approximately 10 meters [30 feet] per second, can generate wave
amplitudes of nearly four meters [10 feet] per second above rough
terrain. In addition, the authors found that steeply sloping terrain
further enhanced the waves, which are generated by rapid variations in
the up-and-down turbulence in the air. Wider hills and those spaced
further apart can also have a similar wave- generating effect, but the
authors found that the wind effects typically do not propagate
vertically near isolated hills as they do around rougher terrain.

The researchers note that there are very few detailed field studies of
the wind field over hills at present. They report, however, that
models and previous research indicates that even weak interactions
from acoustic waves can produce significant effects in the
thermosphere.

[I'd always suspected that acoustic heating takes place on a larger
scale than is creditied in the eath's overall heat balance. Only I am
not subscribed to get PDFs and etc., from the satanic mills.

(Not that I'd have much success with the maths and et., etc.,)
Pease don't all shout at once, the balance of the earth being what it
is and the country so near to the Arctic and etc., etc.

You don't give a citation or even a link so it is not possible even
with access to find the PDF.

No apologies as this is what happens if you test the defences of some
of these turnips:

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doi:10.1016/j.jastp.2009.03.008


Copyright © 2009 Elsevier Ltd All rights reserved.

Infrasound from tropospheric sources: Impact on mesopause
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C. Pilger, a, and M. Bittnera

aGerman Aerospace Center (DLR-DFD), 82 234 Wessling, Germany


Received 20 October 2008; revised 12 February 2009; accepted 8 March
2009. Available online 20 March 2009.

Abstract
Three- to six-day oscillations in the mesopause temperature have been
observed all over the year. While these oscillations can be explained
by planetary wave activity in wintertime, their summertime appearance
is still under discussion.

One effect possibly contributing to such summertime oscillations in
the mesopause is acoustic heating. Infrasound generated by low-
pressure areas or thunderstorm cells propagates into the upper
atmosphere and deposits heat in this region. It is speculated that the
oftentimes about weekly variation of low-pressure areas due to
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for mesopause temperature oscillations through infrasound as a
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Keywords: Infrasound; Acoustic heating; Planetary waves; Mesopause
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That's one off the bat but there was a recent one mentioned in the
Earth Observatory site not that I can find it without getting
sidetracked.

(A serious lump of my computer fell into my hands the other day. I am
pretty sure the copper on the back of the fan on a CPU is not supposed
to come away with it.

But what do I know?)

However, my reading is that the atmosphere, like the oceans, is a
fluid and so there are atmospheric tides. Just as the tidal range is
amplified by shelving sea beds, the atmospheric tides will be
amplified by mountains. The thermosphere is at the top of the
atmosphere (TOA), where it is heated by radiation from the sun. Thus
it is very hot anyway. Being at the TOA, that is where the atmospheric
waves break. If the Andes are creating a similar effect to that which
creates the Severn Bore, then the mixing of the upper thermospheric
air at 1000 C with lower thermospheric air at -100C would cause
dramatic rises in temperature.

No. Any tidal action will be restored in 6 to 12 hours by the laws of
motion etc.
It was about the effect of acoustics on the air. It seems that
channeling and reverberation of certain frequency (modulations?) has
an heating effect.

Anothe rchap is busy working on the way that seismic waves ignored as
background can denote mised storm records. It's na handy way to build
a database back into the past.

I'm temepted to tell him the rest of it too. But I thought first, I'd
pep up my own background knowledge as far as I can.

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