Re: why would these hurricane prevention methods not work

Hi,
First, thanks for the reply.
A little follow-up discussion, if you may:

Michael Mcneil wrote:
> Are these ingredients or by-products?
>
> > (c) very high speed winds
>
> This is certainly a by-product as old folk lore and modern explanation
> tell of calm humid weather prior to either wind-storm.

As I said, I am new.

> > (1) What if we were able to, in theory, inject a large amount of some
> > inert gas into the forming eye of a storm or a tornado and force less
> > absorption of mositure? Would it retard or prevent the process of
> > storm-formation?
>
> If it increased the pressure.. but at what expense? You might detonate a
> series of nuclear bombs along the path of a tropical storm. This would
> produce huge quantities of gas.
>
> How would you know the storm was not going to petre out or if it formed
> an hurricane, miss anywhere important?

So, assuming that if we do increase the pressure, a storm can be
prevented - see, annually hundreds or maybe thousands lose their lives
to tropical storms especially in Asia and I think, Africa. Hundreds of
millions of dollars worth property is lost _each_ _year_ in these
places. Coastal USA has frequent brushes with
hurricanes/tornadoes/"twisters". - If we could proactively prevent a
few big ones _bearing_ _collateral_ _losses_ _of_ _preventing_ _some_
_harmless_ _ones_, (**see the human and economic losses that can be
prevented - super motivation for even overdoing the prevention part**),
it would not be a bad idea or great cost, considering that The Big Five
- US,UK, France, Russia and China spend hundreds of billions of dollars
(_annually_!!) on weapons modernisation and (maddening) defence
systems.

Nuclear bombs have obvious side effects so that is ruled out, but some
other bombs could do.


> > (2) What if cloud-seeding is done on a forming storm? What would
> > happen?
>
> Graeme's breakthrough occurred when he observed that pollutants from a
> local paper-mill had an extraordinary effect on storms passing overhead
> - they rained harder and longer. Since then, he and his research company
> CloudQuest have worked tirelessly to perfect the technology that can
> repeat this phenomenon and to establish the data gathering techniques
> that prove it works. Their South African experiments have been
> impressive, recording increases in the rainfall from clouds of between
> 40-60%.
>
> http://twm.co.nz/BBC_rainmkr.html

An obvious idea that comes to mind after reading the above article and
some related information is that of "intelligent hygroscopic
particles".
If you have seen the movie "Twister" they showed how numerous tiny
sensors were sent right into the twister to send back readings of wind
speed and moisture and density and other parameters. Now, more
realistically, the tsunami warning system in the Asis-Pacific region,
set up with co-operation among _all_ tsunami-affected countries in
South-East Asia uses similar sea-bed sensors (numerous and spread out)
which will send tremor information to buoys on the surface of the water
which will relay the information to land stations so that people can be
evacuated in time in the event of a big quake. This will be functional
by 2006.

Now, the idea (very raw and possibly naive but worth a look,
nevertheless) is to use the mildly hygroscopic nature of aerosol,
generated by pollution from vehicles or industries and have some
smallish devices or particles, not electronic, but essentially acting
as sponges for moisture and dust, to gather moisture (just as Mather's
paper-mill observation did) and carry the huge collection of these
particles (this is the fantasy part - but maybe some better real idea
can come out of it) across over a few tens of miles to expand the area
of rainfall. Do this iteratively over a period of ten years and get a
larger area under this "collection" of particles. They always stay up
there, make it rain , gather more dust, make it rain again, gather dust
again,.....

Basically, put pollution to use.

>
> > (3) finally, what happens if we, say, set the formed storm on fire, by
> > shooting a powerful jet of burning fuel at the storm, does it help or
> > aggravate the situation?
>
> Try getting set up for doing that in the region of some redneck's hay
> barn.

Very true. This should obviously be tried only on the seas, but
assuming that we have enough fuel and we stop well away from the coast,
will the thing actually work?

Thanks again for the link on Mather. Lot of information in there.

Regards,
Joseph S.

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