Re: Bible far ahead of ancient astronomers!

Hello MDJ! Thanks for the information about the Earth's rotation. But this
is not to be taken for granted. Just as we add a leap year every 4 doesn't
mean the Earth's Rotation is slowing down. This only means the rotation is
not even as far as the 60 seconds to a minute. A few tenths of a second
being off, some time accumulates and so every now and then they add an extra
second to synchronize the clocks. That in itself is not an indication of
slowing.

The fact is, the Earth's Rotation as measured atonomically doesn't seem to
vary at all to within hundredths of a second! I don't call that slowing.
Plus the article you mentioned even talked about a "negative leap second" to
adjust to over adjustment, I suppose or the Earth speeding up.

But the problem. The earliest evidence of the length of the year comes from
Egypt and it appears their year was very much the same length as ours.
Combine that with the very fractional changes in the Earth's speed now that
is measured in tenths of a second! Then compare that with the Seleucid
Era where about 12-16 hours of "extra time" were divided over 2500 years to
gradually align with the current rotational speed. During the
Neo-Babylonian Period, for instance, the delta-T reduced about 3 minutes
every five years! 3 minutes! We are measuring changes if possible to the
millisecond. The "tidal drag" claim back then was slowing the Earth down
by 3 minutes every five years? That's a lot of tidal drag. Even so, by the
time you go back to Rameses II who constructed a pyramid in such a way that
the sun would enter his chamber every year on his birthdate, which is still
working to this day, would appear the Earths' rotational speed has not
changed that much, certainly not having a year solar year nearly 18 hours
longer because of faster rotation, which is not "apparent" via the
Egyptians.

The explanation is, though, that the current times, especially lunar times
are derived directly from the Seleucid Era astronomical texts, which
comprise the majority of the astronomical texts that survived. But these
texts are now under fire for revisionism based upon other texts found that
show the moon up to 13.5 hours displaced in earlier texts than in later
texts. Further, some critical fixed star names seems to have become
interchanged that would artificially likewise add about 12 hours of faked
(speeded up) chronology.

So bascially, at the time of Rameses II in the 14th Century BCE 19th Dynasty
if we were to compare the ERS (Earth's rotation speed) and time of year, we
are impressed it was the same and also impressed the Egyptians were able to
precisely measure this when we compare with our modern times. But during
the Neo-Babylonian Period and Seleucid Era, the Earth's increased Speed is
supposed to have accumulated not 12 milliseconds of speed, but 12 _hours_ of
extra speed.

How is this possible? Easy! The Persians needed to keep their political
history and secrets and so they revised the chronology. When an opportunity
arised that would allow them to keep some ancient references that
substituted in the revised chronology, which added credibility simply by
adjusting the lunar times, they apparently did just that and created
thousands of revised texts that reflected the 12-hour or so speed-up. When
modern researchers, not suspecting such chicanery took these texts for face
value and discovered the 12-hour difference, logically concluded, the
Earth's rotation must have been much faster and devised a theory of tidal
drag to explain how the Earth would slow down over 2500 years a few seconds
per year or so. But it's _not_ happening now.

So it's a big farce and part of what is wrong with the academic world who
don't ever seem to put two and two together, but simply run after whoever is
the most elegant in presenting their biased agenda.

Case in point, if someone just decided the Earth's rotational speed remains
fairly constant with only variations of milliseconds over the centuries, it
would hardly cause an eyebrow raise in Egypt where we find evidence of the
year length being precisely the same then as now.

What is so comical about all this now is that deciding to even things out
between the Seleucid Period texts and the current Earth's rotational Speed
is one thing. But once you attach a "tidal drag" theory to the process, you
don't simply correct 12-16 hours of lunar times for that period. What you
do is you keep on adding seconds at the same rate going farther and farther
back in time until pretty soon you've gained a whole day or so. This
contradicts the length of the year as determined by the Egyptians.

The VAT4956 is a clue to this stage of the revisionism. The star called
"bright star behind the Lion's Foot" (MUL KUR sa TIL GIR UR-A) was
originally a reference to beta-Virginis and the "Rear Foot of the Lion" (GIR
ar sa UR-A) a reference to Leo's actual rear foot, sigma-Leonis. But in
later Seleucid texts, the Rear Foot of the Lion became a reference to
beta-Virginis. The distance between beta-Virginis and sigma-Leonis is 3
cubits. In lunar travel time that is 12 hours (approximately) (Oriel! You
will like this:). That is, in 24 hours the moon travels 6 cubits, thus in
30 days it travels 180 cubits, which is one cubit every 4 hours, 3 cubits
every 12 hours and 6 cubits every 24 hours. But it's not _exactly_ that
because some months are only 29 days, etc. and the 30-day months are
actually "leap months".

At any rate, if there were a conspiracy to revise chronology that benefited
by adding 12-16 hours to lunar times, then renaming the Rear Foot of the
Lion to beta-Virginis would compensate for 12-14 hours of this revision.
That is, it would become "invisible" on casual observation based upon the
new Seleucid Period times even in ancient texts. A pre-Seleucid period
text that reported the moon near the Rear Foot of the Lion (an original
reference for sigma-Leonis) would not be perceived to be 12 hours later in
the vivinicity of beta-Virginis. So by renaming the fixed stars the 12-hour
revision is transmitted to the earliest of texts.

Unfortunately, the VAT4956 was created before the lunar revision times and
so it's lunar position and star names reflect the original times, the lunar
positions in the VAT4956 being some 13.5 hours off from those calculated in
the popular astronomy programs, but programs specifically based upon the
Seleucid Period references and no others.

So again, it's nice to be able to "see no evil", "hear no evil" but some of
the astronomy, because it is so precise, will not work unless you face the
reality of the revisions made by the Persians for political reasons to
protect the identity of a beloved king and to avoid a war with Greece.

But the very sound of "revisionism" or "conspiracy" causes modern-day
scientists to break out in hives and reach for the Prozac so it can't be
mentioned and so the dream world and fantasies about the idyllic past remain
part of modern astronomy, along with an apparently unsubstantiated tidal
drag on the Earth's rotational speed that isn't happening now for some
reason.

Something is definitely wrong. We know what it is. But most modern
astronomers have neither the expertise, insight, instinct or ability to deal
with it, so their knowledge is compromised and it becomes a joke to the
better informed.

But with more and more information now, eventually they will *have* to deal
with it and corrections will be made. It's just amazing the information is
available now but few will even listen to it, let alone investigate the
facts.

But as I said, if what I say is credible, it will come out and the more
persons who become aware of the details, the concepts will get updated just
like any other part of science. It's just a matter of time.

Larry W



"MDJ" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "john carruthers" <ifonly@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Larry Wilson" <misha_linword@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> I
>>> hope you don't think these were 24-hour days. Days in the Bible have
>>> different lengths and the "Creative Days" were 7,000 years long each. <
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>> That's handy ;-) Who thought that one up ?
>> jc
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> While I would agree with Larry on most points, the days of creation were
> just that, six 24 hour days. Actually, to be precise, they were 6 days of
> 23 hours 27 minutes long. Why I hear you ask. Well, for a clue check out
>
> http://www.technewsworld.com/story/WmzjbSyjW9zGId/Ringing-Out-2005-Will-Take-an-Extra-Second.xhtml
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4562194.stm
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> Yes, the earth is slowing down and was rotating slightly faster when it
> was created. The leads me on to the millions of years - if the earth os
> slowing down then millions of years ago, actually 3.6 billion years ago it
> must have been spinning so fast that any thing on it would have had to
> hang on!!!
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> Just my 2p
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> Markdj
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