Re: Modern warlocks?

In urp, Rhiannon_s wrote in response to Halla's response to Jymn:

Loads of snips here, sorry if I've messed up the attribs.

Seems ok to me.

<snip>
Can one person's suffering be justification to undo a bit of
art? It is a big question, look at all the war films and
soldiers tunes that we would lose (actually I wouldn't mind
losing a few John Wayne movies) just to avoid upsetting those
involved in the conflicts.

Aside from that, there are a number of artists and compsers who are known
(and others who are suspected) to have had fairly dodgy personal lives. Just
because they and their victims are dead is that any reason to treat them
differently.
Is public respect for their work also public approval of their private
lives.

Surely more a case of getting
some sort of psychological help for the victims as they have
not learned to heal and move on. Which I know, believe me I
know, is easier said than done, but it should still be tried.

I agree.

<snip>
Isn't there a case for seizing his earnings from such a
source? Then again, presumably he did not cause any
suffering from this work (except for recorder practice,
which is generally bad), so why shouldn't he receive money
for legitimate work?

I believe, and ICBW and IANAL that the argument is that he
only wrote the books so he could trap kids.

The books certainly enhanced his reputation as a teacher and therefore
attracted a wider audience than he might have had.

So there is the
argument that earnings could be confiscated as he would be
benefiting from some part of his crime, or they should be
withdrawn in total. I'm not sure how convincing that
argument is, there would be easier ways to trap kids than
learning how to write and teach music, it is hard work.

True.

Surely just opening a bible study group would have the same
effect for a quick flick through a book.

Presumably a much smaller audience and therefore potential number of victims
though.

Anyway, I'm sure as the lawyers would say "it would make and
*interesting* case and can we be paid upfront."

No doubt.
Though his attempt to keep all the royalties might use them all up.

<snip>
See above argument, I have a book on Blackadder somewhere and
when Blackadder Goes Forth was aired the BBC got a letter
from a very elderly woman saying how dragging over that
conflict upset her because she lost family and fiance to it.
Should BGF be withdrawn to avoid her upset? What about the
recent folk songs about the conflict in Northern Ireland? I
imagine that they upset a lot of people there.

Ban all motor vehicles, the number of people who've been seriously injured
and killed in motor vehicle accidents there must be a very sizeable
proportion of the population that could be affected.

There is a limit we can go to to help people avoid pain.
This kinda ties in with the thread about adults throwning
tantrums like kids. Where does this persons personal
responsibility to help herself start and our social
responsibility end?

Interesting question.
<snip>
We
don't do capital punishment in the UK so that only leaves
lifelong imprisonment of some form.

Or segregation at least.

We don't do De Jure capital punishment, on the other hand you
can be shot for running for a train and looking a bit
foriegn. You can be left to die by the authorities for a
number of reasons relating to prejudices, the authorities can
give out the unofficial message that attackers of certain
groups wont be actively sought, etc and so on. We have quite
a number of de facto captial punishments in fact.

Correction noted and accepted.

Occasionally there is an effort to change that, but it is
always half hearted. It is quite handy for a governement to
send the message that while judicial killing is illegal, step
outside social boundries far enough then you'll still die.
It is kinda like having your moral high ground cake and
eating it too.

*G
So a win-win situation then

Jymn


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