Re: Indoctriantion, was root of all evil

janet wrote:

Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:

janet wrote:


Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:


janet wrote:

Well, if you believe that school is about inculcating 

*behaviour*

instead of, or as well as, knowledge. Then yes, that is a very 

good

example of indoctrination. 


Of course it is about inculcating behaviour.

When a child faces a problem in science, what do you wish her 

to

do?


Look it up? That is a behaviour. 

A) remember what she has been taught, and apply it.
B) look it up and apply it.
c) try and work out the answer from existing available knowledge

And this is not behaviour? How is it not behaviour?

Then everything is behaviour modification. 


If you wish to use that term, yes.  I'm with Romauld on this one...


One cannot 'consume' a single bit of information without it being
behaviour modification. It reduces the term to one which is
meaningless.



Yes, one can.  Did you read what I said about the difference between
education and teaching a skill?


>Teaching that doesn't have an effect on the higher, cognitivie
>processes is merely skill - not education.

Both equally behaviour modification, according to you. 


I'd really prefer it if you didn't put words into my mouth - I have
some reasonable idea of what I do mean here.

I've given the standard definition of learning - which you've
refuted with reference to BFS.

Have you, perhaps, an alternative definition of learning?

The process whereby information and data are absorbed and structured internally into useable knowledge.

FFF
Dirk

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