Re: Jesus considers women as dirt

Salahuddin,
Good quote about anger.

As for the original quote and the title "Jesus considers women as dirt", you need to read a bit more to understand Jesus. Beware of quoting one or two verses from Revelation to prove something, particularly when there are really obvious verses on the subject in the easier to understand books of the bible. It is important to use the plainer books to understand books like Revelation, Daniel and Ezekiel which are full of imagery. John was describing a vision he saw. Literal things in the bible are meant to be taken literally; other stuff isn't. I understand Muslims think the same way about the Qur'an, e.g. the sun sinking into a black pool. I don't think you will have any disagreement with that method, will you.

If you want to understand how Jesus considered women, the following spring to mind:
Jesus speaking with a Samaritan woman in John chapter 4. Bear in mind that the Jews did not speak to Samaritans unless they had to, let alone Samaritan women.
Jesus healing a Syro-Phoenician woman's daughter in John 7, i.e. a gentile woman's (= non-Jew's) daughter.
Jesus let himself be anointed by a "sinful woman" in Luke 7.36-50.
Jesus retreated to Mary and Martha's house when he was in need of quiet (Luke 10).
There are about 24 instances of Jesus meeting with a woman, talking about a woman, healing a woman, etc.
Jesus' ministry was supported by women.

http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200102/024_jesus_and_women.cfm explains things quite well.

and so on. Not quite considering women as dirt, I would suggest.

Alan

"Salahuddin" <Muslim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Tywif.6655$a15.717@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
"those who anger you, control you" :)

"Harry" <harry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1133149993_36199@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
as opposed to your prophet who fucked little girls?


"Salahuddin" <Muslim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:htrif.5020$xP2.3753@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim): Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean: Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even....





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