Re: Treatment of the Non-Muslims


"Salahuddin" <ask@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Rock" <peace@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Jafar As-Sadiq Calley" <jafar@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> Rock wrote:
> >> > "Jafar As-Sadiq Calley" <jafar@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> >>Rock wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>And yet the contraditions relating to known facts regarding the
> >> >>>setting
> >> >
> >> > of
> >> >
> >> >>>the Sun, and its orbit are left in place. Just as the inaccuracies
> >> >
> >> > uttered
> >> >
> >> >>>by Mohammad.
> >> >>>This is called "salting to taste".
> >> >>
> >> >>What contradictions?
> >> >>
> >> >>--
> >> >>Jafar Calley
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These contradictions:
> >> > Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below,
Allah
> > at
> >> > one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says
> >> > that
> > the
> >> > Heaven was created first.
> >> >
> >> > Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on
> > Earth;
> >> > THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments
> > (Skies)..
> >>
> >> Ok, so He creates things on Earth, then split the heavens into 7.
> >>
> >> > Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven
that
> > He
> >> > built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made
> >> > dark
> > the
> >> > night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after
> >> > that,
> > He
> >> > spread (flattened) the earth
> >>
> >> Is comprehension one of your lesser skills Rock? Creation and expanding
> >> or spreading the Earth are two separate things.
> >>
> >> > Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:
> >> >
> >> > Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the
> >> > setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring.
> >>
> >> A figure of speech. Have you seen the sun set over the ocean? It looks
> >> like it is setting into the ocean does it not? Again your comprehension
> >> fails you.
> >>
> >> > A resting place for Sun!?
> >> > Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him.
That
> > is
> >> > the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
> >>
> >> Why is this a "measuring" as translated here? Because(as other
> >> translations correctly put it) the sun is running for an appointed or
> >> measured time period. Scientists also agree that the sun will cease to
> >> exist one day. This theory however has only recently come to light. The
> >> Qur'aan told us this scientific fact over 1400 years ago!
> >>
> >> > Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she
> >> > return
> >> > like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
> >>
> >> Or from the original Arabic, that the moon has phases.
> >>
> >> > Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the
> >> > night
> >> > outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
> >>
> >> Another simple scientific fact confirmed. The Sun and Moon float in
> >> orbits. Do you have an alternative theory to that?
> >>
> >> > Quran gives us further (scientific?) knowledge by telling us that the
> > stars
> >> > were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:
> >> >
> >> > Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky)
> > with
> >> > lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away
Satans.
> >> >
> >> > Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with
> > beauty
> >> > (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate
> > rebellious
> >> > Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the
> > Exalted
> >> > Assembly but be cast away from every side.
> >>
> >> Lamps and barriers to keep Satan and evil spirits from the Heavens.
> >> Since you disbelieve I don't expect you to understand this.
> >>
> >> > Is Man Created From Clotted Blood?
> >> > Quran-23:14: Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED
> > BLOOD
> >> > then fashioned We the Clot a little lump (foetus), fashioned We the
> > little
> >> > lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced
> >> > it
> >> > another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. (
Bengali
> >> > translated Quran said: "Zamaa't Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi" And
> >> > this
> >> > Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran )
> > Quran-75:38:
> >> > Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned.
> >>
> >> This was presented to Professor Keith Moore who is the Professor
> >> Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto.
> >> He was very surprised to find such statements as this in a book over
> >> 1400 years old.
> >>
> >> The clot mentioned here which in Arabic is "Alaqah" can have three
> >> meanings. 1st meaning, "Leech", second "a suspended thing" and third
> >> "Blood clot"
> >> In comparing the fresh water leech to the embryo at the "alaqah" stage,
> >> Professor Moore found a great similarity between the two. ie. They look
> >> very much alike. He has in fact used such an example at scientific
> >> conferences since.
> >> The second meaning, "a suspended thing" describes the attachment of
this
> >> embryo to the uterus of the mother.
> >> Third, the "blood clot" refers to the formation of blood in closed
> >> vessels until the metabolic cycle is completed through the placenta.
> >> During this "Alaqah" stage, the blood is caught within these closed
> >> vessels and so acquires the appearance of a blood clot.
> >>
> >> How could Muhammad(saw) know this over 1400 years ago!!??
> >>
> >>
> >> > Quran 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood
> >>
> >> There's that Alaq word again. :D
> >>
> >> > Is Religion Compulsive Or Is It Not?
> >> > Quran 02: 256 There is no Compulsion in religion..
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> > OR
> >> >
> >> > Quran 9: 29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith(Islam) till
> > they
> >> > pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.
> >>
> >> Referring to a period when Muslims were attacked and urged to fight
back.
> >>
> >> > Quran 9: 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the
idolators
> >> > wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and
> > prepare
> >> > for them each ambush..
> >>
> >> Again, at the time the Muslims were beset upon by tribes of idol
> >> worshipers. This verse was revealed for a specific time and purpose.
> >>
> >> > Quran 47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off
their
> >> > heads..
> >>
> >> The Arabic does not contain the word Jihad, but it contains the word
War
> >> (two different things). I'm sure many heads were chopped by swords
> >> during battles of the time.
> >>
> >> > Quran 2: 191 And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn
them
> > out
> >> > from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who
> > suppress
> >> > faith.
> >>
> >> In other words defend yourself. I'm sure If I came to your home with a
> >> few brothers and turfed you and you family out on the street, you would
> >> not just accept it and walk away? Again, a verse revealed for a
specific
> >> time and place.
> >>
> >> > Quran 8: 65 O Apostle ! rouse the believers to the fight
> > of..unbelievers.
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> >> Why the abbreviations?
> >>
> >> "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty
> >> steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a
> >> hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who
> >> disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without
> >> intelligence."(Qur'aan 8:65)
> >>
> >> Again, you try and twist a verse revealed for a specific time and place
> >> (Battle of Badr). What is the point you are trying to make?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Do you want more?
> >>
> >> Please do, but take into account that you cannot just take a verse or
> >> part of one out of context and without understanding events surrounding
> >> it's revelation and understand it by taking it literally. There are
> >> likely to be hidden meanings not to mention erroneous interpretations
> >> based entirely on English translations.
> >>
> >
> > You are a prime example why learned men are opposed to Islam. Those
> > contradictions are valid, and no amount of excuses will alter the fact.
> > These came from people whose first language is Arabic, and not from
those
> > who have little knowledge of the finer points, such as yourself. Even
now,
> > you clain that the Sun is in orbit, and yet no astrnomer would agree
with
> > yo
> > u.
> >
> > And we do NOT come from a clot of blood. You want to change science fact
> > to
> > accomodate the inaccuracies.
> >
> > As for the outnumbering by the enemy, would you not agree then, that the
> > insurgents in Fallujah should have been victorious against the foe?
>
> The Lions of Fallujah whooped yo ameri*** ass!
>
> > Should Afghanistan have been defeated by the infidel?
> >
> >
>
>

And this was accomplished by throwing themselves at American bullets, was
it?


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