Re: Treatment of the Non-Muslims


"Rock" <peace@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Jafar As-Sadiq Calley" <jafar@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Rock wrote:
>> > "Jafar As-Sadiq Calley" <jafar@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >>Rock wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>And yet the contraditions relating to known facts regarding the
>> >>>setting
>> >
>> > of
>> >
>> >>>the Sun, and its orbit are left in place. Just as the inaccuracies
>> >
>> > uttered
>> >
>> >>>by Mohammad.
>> >>>This is called "salting to taste".
>> >>
>> >>What contradictions?
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Jafar Calley
>> >
>> >
>> > These contradictions:
>> > Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah
> at
>> > one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says
>> > that
> the
>> > Heaven was created first.
>> >
>> > Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on
> Earth;
>> > THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments
> (Skies)..
>>
>> Ok, so He creates things on Earth, then split the heavens into 7.
>>
>> > Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that
> He
>> > built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made
>> > dark
> the
>> > night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after
>> > that,
> He
>> > spread (flattened) the earth
>>
>> Is comprehension one of your lesser skills Rock? Creation and expanding
>> or spreading the Earth are two separate things.
>>
>> > Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:
>> >
>> > Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the
>> > setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring.
>>
>> A figure of speech. Have you seen the sun set over the ocean? It looks
>> like it is setting into the ocean does it not? Again your comprehension
>> fails you.
>>
>> > A resting place for Sun!?
>> > Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That
> is
>> > the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
>>
>> Why is this a "measuring" as translated here? Because(as other
>> translations correctly put it) the sun is running for an appointed or
>> measured time period. Scientists also agree that the sun will cease to
>> exist one day. This theory however has only recently come to light. The
>> Qur'aan told us this scientific fact over 1400 years ago!
>>
>> > Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she
>> > return
>> > like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
>>
>> Or from the original Arabic, that the moon has phases.
>>
>> > Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the
>> > night
>> > outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
>>
>> Another simple scientific fact confirmed. The Sun and Moon float in
>> orbits. Do you have an alternative theory to that?
>>
>> > Quran gives us further (scientific?) knowledge by telling us that the
> stars
>> > were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:
>> >
>> > Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky)
> with
>> > lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans.
>> >
>> > Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with
> beauty
>> > (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate
> rebellious
>> > Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the
> Exalted
>> > Assembly but be cast away from every side.
>>
>> Lamps and barriers to keep Satan and evil spirits from the Heavens.
>> Since you disbelieve I don't expect you to understand this.
>>
>> > Is Man Created From Clotted Blood?
>> > Quran-23:14: Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED
> BLOOD
>> > then fashioned We the Clot a little lump (foetus), fashioned We the
> little
>> > lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced
>> > it
>> > another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. ( Bengali
>> > translated Quran said: "Zamaa't Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi" And
>> > this
>> > Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran )
> Quran-75:38:
>> > Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned.
>>
>> This was presented to Professor Keith Moore who is the Professor
>> Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto.
>> He was very surprised to find such statements as this in a book over
>> 1400 years old.
>>
>> The clot mentioned here which in Arabic is "Alaqah" can have three
>> meanings. 1st meaning, "Leech", second "a suspended thing" and third
>> "Blood clot"
>> In comparing the fresh water leech to the embryo at the "alaqah" stage,
>> Professor Moore found a great similarity between the two. ie. They look
>> very much alike. He has in fact used such an example at scientific
>> conferences since.
>> The second meaning, "a suspended thing" describes the attachment of this
>> embryo to the uterus of the mother.
>> Third, the "blood clot" refers to the formation of blood in closed
>> vessels until the metabolic cycle is completed through the placenta.
>> During this "Alaqah" stage, the blood is caught within these closed
>> vessels and so acquires the appearance of a blood clot.
>>
>> How could Muhammad(saw) know this over 1400 years ago!!??
>>
>>
>> > Quran 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood
>>
>> There's that Alaq word again. :D
>>
>> > Is Religion Compulsive Or Is It Not?
>> > Quran 02: 256 There is no Compulsion in religion..
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > OR
>> >
>> > Quran 9: 29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith(Islam) till
> they
>> > pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.
>>
>> Referring to a period when Muslims were attacked and urged to fight back.
>>
>> > Quran 9: 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators
>> > wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and
> prepare
>> > for them each ambush..
>>
>> Again, at the time the Muslims were beset upon by tribes of idol
>> worshipers. This verse was revealed for a specific time and purpose.
>>
>> > Quran 47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their
>> > heads..
>>
>> The Arabic does not contain the word Jihad, but it contains the word War
>> (two different things). I'm sure many heads were chopped by swords
>> during battles of the time.
>>
>> > Quran 2: 191 And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them
> out
>> > from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who
> suppress
>> > faith.
>>
>> In other words defend yourself. I'm sure If I came to your home with a
>> few brothers and turfed you and you family out on the street, you would
>> not just accept it and walk away? Again, a verse revealed for a specific
>> time and place.
>>
>> > Quran 8: 65 O Apostle ! rouse the believers to the fight
> of..unbelievers.
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>> Why the abbreviations?
>>
>> "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty
>> steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a
>> hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who
>> disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without
>> intelligence."(Qur'aan 8:65)
>>
>> Again, you try and twist a verse revealed for a specific time and place
>> (Battle of Badr). What is the point you are trying to make?
>>
>>
>> > Do you want more?
>>
>> Please do, but take into account that you cannot just take a verse or
>> part of one out of context and without understanding events surrounding
>> it's revelation and understand it by taking it literally. There are
>> likely to be hidden meanings not to mention erroneous interpretations
>> based entirely on English translations.
>>
>
> You are a prime example why learned men are opposed to Islam. Those
> contradictions are valid, and no amount of excuses will alter the fact.
> These came from people whose first language is Arabic, and not from those
> who have little knowledge of the finer points, such as yourself. Even now,
> you clain that the Sun is in orbit, and yet no astrnomer would agree with
> yo
> u.
>
> And we do NOT come from a clot of blood. You want to change science fact
> to
> accomodate the inaccuracies.
>
> As for the outnumbering by the enemy, would you not agree then, that the
> insurgents in Fallujah should have been victorious against the foe?

The Lions of Fallujah whooped yo americunt ass!

> Should Afghanistan have been defeated by the infidel?
>
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