Re: Phil's Test for the gospel standard of righteous judgement

"Phil Saunders" <philip.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist UK.RC" <"broadband [remove]
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"Phil Saunders" <philip.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
And some command that others do things that they never did or taught
when
they were in a position to do so. Eh Jeff?

We should onwardly increase both in knowledge and understanding, Phil.

Indeed but how convenient for you that you came to this enlightenment
when you didnt have to practice it.

Nothing to do with convenience, for it was practised....to the extent
that the women were forbidden to speak or preach during all the religious
services and lectures, they also covered their heads when praying to God,
and even when grace was said before meals.

Now! do you practise these Apostolic instructions in your own household
of faith?

They are your instructions Jeff. They are not apostolic ones.

Oh! but they are indeed....{;o;} women are forbidden to speak and preach in
the churches whether you are capable of grasping it or not.
"As in all the congregations of the saints, 34 women should remain SILENT in
the churches. They are not allowed to SPEAK, but must be in submission, as
the Law says. 35 If they want to enquire about something, they should ask
their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to SPEAK in
the church.
36 Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has
reached? 37 If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him
acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38 If he
ignores this, he himself will be ignored." 1 Cor 14:33-38 (ANIV)
Sounds reasonable to me, Phil.

It's even worse for the disobedient reprobate from the New Century Version.
" 37 Those who think they are prophets or spiritual persons should
understand that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command.
38 Those who ignore this will be ignored by God."
So God will ignore all those, [including you] who refuse to acknowledge
this command for women to be silent in the church assemblies.

So we see now quite clearly from these passages, that not only did your
statement contain words of heresy but also a falsehood by pretending they
are my instructions and not Apostolic ones. No wonder your conscience is
shown to keep nudging and pricking you over the words 'lie' and 'deceit'. I
fully understand why, now Phil.

What does "elect" mean?
When Jesus said that He would deliver up all those the Father brought to
Him because that was what the Father willed was Jesus mistaken?
You say that we must follow the commands of Jesus but you dont know what
Jesus command is. Here let me refresh your memory.

14Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. OK so far
Jeff?
15Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his
lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have
heard of my Father I have made known unto you. Sill keeping up?

16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye
should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that
whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
Still with me?

17These things I command you, that ye love one another. There ya
go!!!!!

Yes! and there you go once again.....neglecting...... to see Jesus was
primarily addressing his immediate Disciples at this time. "25 These things
have I spoken unto you, being yet PRESENT with you. 26 But the Comforter,
which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall
teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I
have said unto YOU." John 14:25-26 (KJV)

But back to you. Did you, or did you not, exercise all of your current
doctrine with regards to women when there was a woman, your wife, to whom
you might have to direct *all* of your doctrine?

Oh! dear, looks like you failed to keep up with my last post once again.
"women were forbidden to speak or preach during all the religious
services and lectures, [see Apostolic instructions above, Phil] they also
covered their heads when praying to God,
and even when grace was said before meals. Do your women cover their heads
when praying to Almighty God?

I hope I am wrong, but have a perception that they don't.

Jeff...
"16 Take heed unto thyself, and the doctrines; continue in them: for in
doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."
1 Tim 4:16 (KJV)
.

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