Re: Brinking: (was Re: BBC's 'The Passion')
- From: Roger Pearse <roger.pearse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:18:25 -0700 (PDT)
On 11 Apr, 23:14, Richard Corfield <Richard.Corfi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2008-04-11,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A brinker is taking advantage of the moderated status of a forum, to
try to bait *others* into a rage and so get them reprimanded by the
moderator. The usual technique is to posting material which on the
face of it is bland or falls within the moderation policy but is
actually very insulting to the person being brinked. A successful
brink is when your enemy gets banned; a very successful brink is when
you can get him to apologise for what you made him do!
I wonder as you posted that accusation, if it were true, he'd have
succeeded then.
Actually I saw in another thread that he managed a very successful
brink on all concerned and got two people fighting each other.
Like bullying, I always find that it is best to highlight when this
sort of thing is going on. So many people are unfamiliar with the
trick. Indeed it's actually a rare one, these days, as far as I can
tell. The point about it, of course, is deniability -- the brinker
can always come over all innocent, and claim it is the other person
who is being "rude".
All this fuss over whether a particular story is unique.
My interest is whether the stories about Mithras etc are **true**.
Whatever religious position we hold, don't we want the raw *facts*
right?
If I understand this discussion correctly you are defending the notion
that Christ was the only revered person/deity to have been reborn.
Nope. No interest in that question at all, actually! -- It wouldn't
be true anyway; we all know about the various near-Eastern deities who
are collectively known as the "corn kings", and whose stories
Christians believe in a vague way prefigure the genuine events of the
life of Christ.
No, what **I'm** interested in is seeing an end to this practise of
picking some random deity and maliciously attributing to him (without
concern for the truth of it) most the events of the life of Christ.
As I said; just who benefits from poisoning the hive-mind with hate-
inspired misinformation in this way?
Some years ago I got tired of seeing all this stuff about Mithras. At
that time, like most normal people, I had no idea whether the
statements were true or not. But I'm interested in antiquity, as an
amateur, and have the means to look things up in primary sources. I
find that the actual quantity of primary data on these sorts of things
is always so limited that you or I can really master the lot.
So what I did was to find every ancient literary reference to Mithras,
and digest them:
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras
That's it -- that's all the data. If it isn't in there, it's
fiction. (There is also archaeology, but most of this consists of
pictures of the god and inscriptions saying "Sextus gives this to
Mithras in fulfilment of a vow). Once I could consult this, the
malevolent nature of all the material that I had seen circulated
online became clear; it was a complete fabrication.
I had to do some more research for the "Mithras had a feast on 25
Dec", but this proved bogus as well. Sol Invictus did; Mithras did
not.
I hope that helps!
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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