Re: Explanatory Power of God



Peter Ashby wrote:
Simon Robinson <email@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Do you have any references that you feel do focus on the internal experience?

Many, they simply ask the research subject to report their experience
which as their title suggests is subjective.

But that is still measuring external actions of apparently-conscious beings (ie. what they say), it's not in any sense measuring their internal consciousness (although it may be reasonable to expect there to be some correlation between the two)

If you do enough research
on enough 'subjects' you can use statistical methods to reveal if what
you are getting is structured or random.

How could that help you to explain what consciousness is in material terms?

I have asked this question many
times in many places: What is it about consciousness that make the
standard methods that everyone accepts everywhere else invalid?

See Dianelos's post.

I'd also remark that experience of consciousness is personal and appears to be non-sharable, whereas scientific method is dependent on external observations and reproducibility by different people.

Simon
http://www.simonrobinson.com
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