Re: Move to bar General Synod membership to the over 70s

"Trevor Jenkins" <Trevor.Jenkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 21:13:50 GMT, 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist
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"Trevor Jenkins" <Trevor.Jenkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
A church with every age group, every race, equally gendered, singles
and
partnered and marrieds represented,

What do you mean by 'partnered' Trevor?
Not those in immoral, unmarried, relationships, surely?

No, rather I mean those relationships in which two people have committed
themselves to each other in a legal way recognised in law.

Man's law, or God's Law for Christians?

And until
Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 "unmarried" relationships were pretty
much the norm in this country.

That doesn't excuse any Christian for living in sin.
Marriage between a man and a woman is the Divine institution spoken of by
Jesus himself.
Not corrupted man-made foolish attempts at false 'marriage' unions of
fornicators.

able-bodied and disabled worshipping
together, the highly educated and those with learning difficulties
learning as one,
hetrosexual and homosexual expressing Christian love to
each other;

Homosexuals shouldn't be in any Christian church, their perverted,
degrading sex-acts are an "Abomination" before God.

Neither should people who fiddle their taxes, steal office supplies from
their bosses, slip off home early, drive over the speed limit.

Well, as two, three, or four wrongs never make a right, you are making a
pretty useless and lame excuse for those who commit acts of same-sex
'abomination'.

Or judge
those whom God is working on.

Even Jesus stated "By their fruits shall ye know them"
Thus any opinions being in favour of condoning same-sex immorality, and not
judging such things, are rather twisted out of sync.

1 Corinthians 5: 11 "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if
any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an
idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no
not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye
judge them that are within?" ........
[Did you see that Trevor?.....Those within the church who are fornicators
etc, are to be judged according to their immoral actions. Just as Jesus told
his followers to 'Judge righteous judgment' ]
........."13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away
from among yourselves that wicked person."

If any are living in the sin of fornication, adultery, etc, they are in
error of judgment and are openly sinning, which is not to be tolerated in
any of God's Churches, such a "wicked person" is to be excommunicated.

Your's really must be a lonely church with
no sinners in it. Indeed as a sinner are you allowed in there at all.

There is a difference between those deliberately and wilfully live in sin,
and those who sin in their day to day short-comings. Such have forgiveness
as we are told.

now that's a church worth being a member of and worshiping with.

No it isn't, its accepting some evil people that God has warned will be
barred from Christ's coming kingdom, and should have no place in
"Churches
of God".

So no redemption in your religion then.

If they repent and cease from their fornication, or adulterous liaisons,
quit their thieving, lying, drunkenness, heresies, etc, certainly.


Trevor......"What sayeth the Scripture"

Yes, indeed let's see what the Bible says.

John 8:2--11 (KJV, which you so love to quote from)

What else, being a Christian "Earnestly contending FOR the faith"
Jude 1: 3.


... early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the
people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes
and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they
had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was
taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us,
that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But
Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though
he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up
himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him
first cast a stone at her.

And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went
out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus
was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said
unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned
thee?

She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn
thee: go, and sin no more.

Right. and we are in the class responsible before Christ in that category.
"Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
But it did not mean the women could go off and wilfully keep on committing
adultery, please talk sense.

There's a double standard in this incident. The man who she is committing
adultery with is allowed to slip away. He isn't made to stand before
Jesus.

We are not informed of what, or if anything, happened to the man.
Thus it cannot reasonably be commented on with

Rather like your quoting of 1 Corinthians 6:9 and Jude 1:6 they are
just show-boating their self-righteousness.

Come off it Trevor.
That is such a shameful thing to say.
It is showing unrighteous prejudice against Scripture which has been
"Inspired by God". and has "Been written for our learning".

I'd rather worship with one
homosexual who can say "God be merciful to me a sinner"

But the 'christian' homosexuals I hear of, do not state "God be merciful to
me a sinner"
on the contrary they beleive they are not sinning by committing fornication
and infecting one another with the death plague, HIV virus, they are proud
of their 'abomination' before God, and demand to be recognised as just
normal brethren & sisters of Christ.

than a cathedral
full of self-righteous prigs.

Such wording states volumes about a person's orientated mind-set.
Jude 1:7 "Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like
them committed sexual sins and engaged in homosexual activities, serve as an
example of the punishment of eternal fire."
Thus God wanted this important message to go out to homosexual people,
warning them of their final ending if they continue in their sinful
practises.

Jeff...
.

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