Re: is it safe to trust the scientific method?

"oriel36" wrote:

The empirical cult,like all cults,hijacks the machinary of legitimate
human endeavors and directs them to spurious and unhealthy ends.Most
people cannot defend themselves against empirical tendencies by virtue
of the complexity of the subject material however there is a
contemporary way to draw attension to an astronomical heritage that is
buried under 3 centuries of pretensious garbage.
[etc]

Gerald, I asked you a number of questions and you have
replied to my article without answering any of them.
Why?

Here they are again, because I really think this discussion has
much more prospect of making progress if you'll take a moment
to explain your terminology to me.

| What do you understand "the scientific method" to be?
| What do you mean by the word "cult"?
|
| What do you mean by "intuitive abilities"? On what evidence
| do you base your statement that in the fields you mentioned
| the scientific method is useless or destructive? In what sense
| are astronomy, geology and climatology not experimental?
| (Seems to me rather a lot of experiments are done in all
| three fields.)

So Gareth,as Newton attempted to fit heliocentric astronomy into his
terrestial ballistic agenda he not only broke several astronomical
principles but created bogus solutions which destroy the original
intutive appreceation of Copernican heliocentricity .Anyone,with a bit
of effort and the time lapse footage of the motion of Jupiter and
Saturn can tell at a glance that Newton got it badly wrong.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0112/JuSa2000_tezel.gif

"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct.." NEWTON

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

The intutive person recognises that planetary heliocentric motions are
seen directly from Earth and even though the difference may appear
subtle (in the manner of Pascal) I assure you that it makes all the
difference to astronomical methods,insights and appreceation.

What do you think Newton meant by "direct"? I think he
meant "in the forward direction"; that is, instantaneously
in the same direction as the overall movement of the body
in question. So he's saying: if you look from earth and
imagine that all those other bodies are orbiting the earth,
they appear to reverse direction at times, whereas from
the vantage point of the sun they always go round the same
way. Is that what you're disagreeing with?

(It *looks* as if you've taken him to mean "directly" in
the usual modern sense of "without intermediary", but that
makes such nonsense of the quotation from him that I think
I must be missing something.)

--
Gareth McCaughan
..sig under construc
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