Re: Rebuking those who say they are Christians

"Mark Goodge" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:27:15 GMT, Diana put finger to keyboard and
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"Mark Goodge" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 02:56:12 GMT, Diana put finger to keyboard and
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Just a "forinstance" about how this sort of thing works: According to
US
law, it is quite legal to make archival copies of CD's and DVD's for
your
own use.

However, it is against the law to break any copywrite or copy protection
encryption systems on any CD or DVD.

Since in order to make a copy of a DVD or CD, you MUST break a copy
protection system, that makes it, ipso facto, illegal to copy DVD'S and
CD'S
for archival purposes.

That's not true, actually. An ordinary CD or DVD can be copied without
any problems - there is no encryption in the basic standards. In fact,
a CD which has some form of copy protection is, under the relevent
standards, not actually a CD at all.

Oh, now that's newspeak....

It's on a CD, plays like one, looks like one...but it's not one
because..???

Because in many cases, it doesn't actually play like one. In some
cases, it can actually cause damage to the thing you try and play it
on. In others, it simply won't play at all.

Just because something is on a shiny, optical disk 12cm in diameter
doesn't make it a CD (or a DVD, which is the same size and has the
same visual appearance). It's the format of the data on the disk which
makes it CD, a DVD or any of the various other formats which can use
the same basic medium. And the data format for CD doesn't include any
provision for copy-protection, which means that adding it to audio
material means creating something which isn't actually a CD. It will
play in many CD players, but not all of them, and it's the fact that
it's not 100% compatible with existing CD standards which makes it not
a CD.

Philips, the organisation which invented CDs and owns the rights to
the name, has specifically refused to allow the use of the CD logo on
products which don't conform to the specifications. So, if you look on
a copy-protected "CD" in your collection, you won't find the CD logo
anywhere on it.

And it's not newspeak to refuse to call it a CD if it isn't. Supposing
a new form of fuel was developed for cars, which worked for most
existing petrol-engined cars but could cause damage to some of them,
would you accept it being sold in gas stations without it being made
clear that it's not the same stuff as what you normally call gasoline?
Maybe if your car was OK with it you might not care, but if you had
one of the cars that needed the real stuff then you'd care a lot.

Mark

OK, there's the technical problem with the brand name explained. However, it
has long been a staple of US law that the owner of a recording has the right
to make an archival copy of it, whether it is a tape, a vinyl record (by
taping it..) CD's or DVD's or anything else. The thing is, what we purchase
when we buy a song or an audio-book or a movie isn't the thing it's recorded
on, any more than we're buying the CD Windows XP comes on when we buy that.
What we are buying is a license to own a copy of whatever it is that is
recorded...and that has nothing at all to do with the medium upon which it
is recorded. We own that, even if the medium upon which it is recorded is
damaged or destroyed. This is why it is legal for us to make archival copies
of software and music, but not to sell copies to someone else.
.

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