Re: Where's the Narnia discussion?

>>Me
>>>>ISTM that to do the Loving thing is always to do the Just thing.
>>>>And vice versa?
>>
>>
>>William
>>> And you find no struggle between love and justice?
>>> Isn't forgiveness a triumph of love over justice?
>>
>>No, not from where I sit?
>>
>>William
>>> Or would you forgive someone and then go on and
>>> punish them just the same?
>>
>>Yes certainly. I do that all the time as a parent. Don't you?
>
> As a parent I see several elements in how I deal with my children.
> There are the elements of correction, teaching, the learning of hard
> lessons and there is pure punishment. Love may will reach a balance in
> its relation to the child's good where the first three are concerned,
> but it has a very different relationship to the last one.
>
> If I claim to forgive my child for some wrong he has done to me and
> there is no requirement for correction or lessons to be learned but I
> still insist on punishing him then the claim to have forgiven him
> rings hollow. Forgiveness without an element of clemency seems to me
> to be empty and facile. It amounts to saying, "I forgive you but I
> still want you to suffer as I did".
>
> William

I agree with all that you say. It is a perfect analysis of how Love and Justice are not mutually exclusive which was my initial assertion....so...Im left wondering what we are actually discussing?

Peter R
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