Re: Where's the Narnia discussion?

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:32:42 +1300, "Peter R"
<plastercon@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Me
>>>ISTM that to do the Loving thing is always to do the Just thing.
>>>And vice versa?
>
>
>William
>> And you find no struggle between love and justice?
>> Isn't forgiveness a triumph of love over justice?
>
>No, not from where I sit?
>
>William
>> Or would you forgive someone and then go on and
>> punish them just the same?
>
>Yes certainly. I do that all the time as a parent. Don't you?

As a parent I see several elements in how I deal with my children.
There are the elements of correction, teaching, the learning of hard
lessons and there is pure punishment. Love may will reach a balance in
its relation to the child's good where the first three are concerned,
but it has a very different relationship to the last one.

If I claim to forgive my child for some wrong he has done to me and
there is no requirement for correction or lessons to be learned but I
still insist on punishing him then the claim to have forgiven him
rings hollow. Forgiveness without an element of clemency seems to me
to be empty and facile. It amounts to saying, "I forgive you but I
still want you to suffer as I did".

William
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