Re: A theological view on intelligent design?

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:40:33 +0200, Gareth McCaughan <Gareth.McCaughan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Paul Dean wrote:

Your last statement shows you agree with me that science cannot accept
fuzzy results - it forms no conclusion but says they 'need more
research'.


This seems rather strange. It seems to me that science copes
just fine with fuzzy results, but has a preference for
unfuzzy ones when they're available, and the fact that
sometimes a proposition is labelled "needs more research
before we can decide" is perfectly consistent with that.

Sheesh, thanks Gareth. I need to caveat a thousand times more what I'm saying in this discussion - look, I know that it is possible to be fully scientific and fully Christian; there is no contradiction when both are properly understood. What I am saying is that many do not understand the limits that science places on itself and insist on having any statement of truth verified by scientific means. That is a) a gross misunderstanding of science and b) putting the scientific world-view (needlessly) in opposition to the Christian world-view which requires subjective truths in ones relationship with God. Although it is needless, many do it, often as a way to escape feeling responsible for their denial of spiritual truth but also often just because they don't know they have a choice. William seems to be a case in point as if always saying, "show me the colour of your scientific method or I won't believe anything is true".

I have done so.  You know, mathematics and philosophy were once the
same thing;

When? 

Up to Pythagoras at least.  Don't you think so?

--
Paul
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