Re: Victory for green lanes
- From: Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:38:49 +0100
Roger wrote:
So you support the notion that a politician with a lack of basic
knowledge of and an antipathy to much of the remit is the ideal
candidate for an important ministerial position.
No.
I have no knowledge of speed limits in Texas in the 1960s but that has
nothing to do with what went on in the UK.
Yet you've divorced it from everywhere else in the world. Were speed
limits in the UK really that different (i.e., due to our own government
ministers acting completely independently) to anywhere else in the
world)? No. So it's rather daft blaming everything on a single
government minister, especially since ministers tend to act on advice of
civil servants who in turn act on other research.
You have an answer for everything Pete but your answer doesn't add up.
yet it is what has been observed, especially as regards cyclists and
pedestrians, who are of course primarily injured seriously by motor
vehicles outwith their control. See, for example,
http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/9/3/205
Since when has losing ones job involved either jail or a criminal record?
Who suggested anything of the sort? It was said to be a punishment,
nothing more, nothing less. Disciplinary action doesn't start at
criminality and gaol.
So you would have it that when it is relatively easy to know how fast is
fast enough you should be denied using your own judgement but when the
conditions get worse you are are sufficiently responsible and
sufficiently experienced to know when to slow down from an arbitrary
speed limit that may be well below the safe limit for that particular
road.
No. Aside from anything else, it /isn't/ easy to know how fast is fast
enough. The evidence is there in the casualty figures.
How do you know what the cause of such accidents is? Perhaps the drivers
just fell asleep at the wheel (IIRC driving when tired is at least as
big a risk as excessive speed and the majority of accidents where
excessive speed is a factor don't involve speeding).
if you fall asleep at the wheel doing 50 you have vastly less excess KE
to dissipate than if you do it at 80. As you well know. So 50 is a
"more appropriate speed" to fall asleep at...
Pete.
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