Re: Hunting increases deer populations

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:31:28 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <63rof2teas4gn1oc5umb8btlpqrd5krtq7@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:39:06 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <fu5of2l90akj7kgtqh159767d4bjqus9l4@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:31:59 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <1ngmf25pd4ksjn8f889phnl3ue67374dil@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:48:12 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <mc0mf2hjb9vu4rdgnt4o3hs7iqusqd09js@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 16:56:48 +0100, Malcolm
<Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <spolf2pk815crovfp5fcdh4k8men9ka1qo@xxxxxxx>,
amacmil304@xxxxxxx writes
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:36:56 GMT, "The Evil Hand" <A@xxxxx> wrote:

And just one more thing, are you a vegetarian Angus?

Do you have a wife and mistress or are you gay?

We can all start asking personal questions.

You can take it that when Angus refuses to answer a question and instead
asks some highly personal ones of his own, he is too embarrassed to
answer. After all, whether or not someone is gay or has a mistress can
hardly be equated with whether or not the person is a vegetarian. It is
a clear sign that he daren't answer you.

Not at all, Malcolm.

I don't regard a question as to whether someone is vegetariana
particularly personal question. If we invite some people round for a
meal and they haven't been before, we always ask them if they are
vegetarian and always get answered. No-one in my experience has ever
been too embarrassed to answer such a question, which must be why you
are refusing to answer. If someone invited you out for a meal and served
you a nice juicy steak would you eat it or would you wish you had been
asked beforehand whether you ate red meat?

I wouldn't wait to be asked : I'd tell them beforehand.

So you don't actually mind whether you tell people if you eat meat or
not? So why answer the perfectly reasonable question whether you are a
vegetarian.


I don't mind at all but I have told you before I am not making any
personal claims on ngs

Yet, you have already said on a newsgroup, when asked if you were a
vegetarian, that you ate chicken, so to refuse to answer now must mean
that you find the subject embarrassing.

It's not embarrassing it the slightest. I have never opposed farming
of domesticated animals provided it is carried out under strict
supervision and any cruelty reported immediately to the RSPCA. Whether
I'm a vegetarian or not is of absolutely no consequence.

If it is of "absolutely no consequence", then there's absolutely no
reason why you shouldn't say whether or not you are, is there?

Because it's of no consequence. Just like when you ask me if I'm an
"expert" in something I say " I don't claim to be an expert in
anything" and I also don't claim to have "unlimited intelligence"
either, lie you do :-)





If you're so keen that personal questions get
answered perhaps you'd like to answer the question of whether you have
had a mistress. I seem to remember some reference to you sniffing
around some lady farmer a few years ago on uk.e.c Not like we'd
expect to get a truthful answer :-(

Go back to the gutter in which you so obviously live.


Hit a raw nerve, Malcolm?

No, Angus, you're the one with raw nerves, unable to answer a
straightforward question like whether or not you are a vegetarian.


See above

Too embarrassing for you to answer, is it?


See above.

If it is of "absolutely no consequence", then there's absolutely no
reason why you shouldn't say whether or not you are, is there?


Because it's of no consequence. Just like when you ask me if I'm an
"expert" in something I say " I don't claim to be an expert in
anything" and I also don't claim to have "unlimited intelligence"
either, lie you do :-)



And your claim that you "seem to remember some reference" to me in
uk.e.c, is as blatant a bit of dishonesty as one is likely to meet, even
from you. The original "reference" was posted by you in exactly the same
circumstances.

Was it? What were those and when?

You presumably have copies of your own posts. Look them up. You posted
the original comment and now you are so dishonest that you say you "seem
to remember some reference".


I'm not particularly interested , Malcolm. You look it up if you wish.


No, Angus, I'm sure you're not. You've just repeated a libel against me
by the simple device of pretending that it wasn't you that said it the
first time. Well, you've been found out as being blatantly dishonest.


I don't recall ever saying you had a mistress. When did I say that?

You were faced with questions that were too difficult or
embarrassing for you to answer, so you tried to divert attention by
introducing a libellous claim about me. It is still libellous, Angus and
shows the depths to which you will sink in order to try and discredit
those who disagree with you.

So are you saying you haven't had a mistress?

I have never claimed you had a mistress but would like some
confirmation before I answer any of your personal questions.

So how about it, Malcolm?

As it happens, Angus, I asked you the recent awkward question first. Do
you remember? It was when you were banging on about all the risks out
there in the frightening Scottish countryside, of which you are so
scared, and I asked you whether your son ever indulged in risky
activities. You couldn't bring yourself to answer what must be another
embarrassing question, so instead you tried to divert attention by
asking me if I had ever had a mistress.


No awkward question at all. It's up to him what he does.

I don't ask what your wife and family does.

Well, Angus, I asked first, so it is up you to answer first.


See above.

If it is also of "absolutely no consequence", then there's absolutely no
reason why you shouldn't answer, is there?

Because it's of no consequence. Just like when you ask me if I'm an
"expert" in something I say " I don't claim to be an expert in
anything" and I also don't claim to have "unlimited intelligence"
either, lie you do :-)





Get back to your gutter and stay there.


That's not nice.

It's not meant to be nice, it is telling you to get back to your gutter.


That's doubly not nice :-)

Good.

Are you now going to tell me to f**k off again?

If you wish.


Go on then. Be a guttersnipe if you wish.

Interesting derivation from a bird name, that.

You're improving.





For the record, Angus has confessed to eating chicken - in a Chinese
takeaway, too. I wonder whether he enquired where the chicken came from
or the conditions under which it had been reared.

At least I was honest and how many years ago was that, Malcolm?


You, honest? Huh!


I was if I told you I ate chicken. And how many years ago was that?

I don't know, but I remember you saying that you did it every so often.

In typical fashion it seems you don't know very much.

Are you denying that you said that you had a Chinese take-away meal
containing chicken every so often? Hint: google will reveal it, if
you've forgotten.


Look it up.

I don't need to. I remember it and you haven't denied it.


How long ago was that? Perhaps 5 years ago?

What else did I say in that post that you've remembered?



Mind you there's an excuse for you. You don't know the meaning of the
word "honest".

Yes I do, because I know that it doesn't apply to you.

No. That's something else you don't know.

On the contrary, anyone who can behave as you do, e.g. with your remarks
above about you "seem to remember some reference" which was libellous
about me and which you posted yourself, is being dishonest.


I do seem to remember some reference, so what was it?

What you posted the first time. You, oh so cleverly remembered one of
your own (libellous) posts.


So what was is?


Follows a pattern :-)

Unfortunately, you do have a pattern of being dishonest in your
statements and claims :-(


What statements and claims?

The list is so long as to be impractical to post here, but google will
reveal the depths of your dishonesty if anyone's interested.

The problem I think you have is you don't know the difference between
honesty and dishonesty. You have such a large grey area in between -
the ears, I might add :-))


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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