Re: Pay for your rescue.

uk.rec.walking
<amacmil304@xxxxxxx>
Sat, 20 May 2006 14:17:02 +0100
<news:bg5u625832jb63agkiuv91a2c77mg5taa8@xxxxxxx>:

On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:18:44 +0100, Bootlaces - the very slow
fellrunner <bootlaces@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

uk.rec.walking
<amacmil304@xxxxxxx>
Sat, 20 May 2006 12:33:57 +0100
<news:9cvt62t0kc07qn7bp920qtnb15eu4h0k98@xxxxxxx>:

On Sat, 20 May 2006 11:35:47 +0100, Bootlaces <bootlaces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

<amacmil304@xxxxxxx>
Sat, 20 May 2006 09:48:00 +0100
<news:pllt6293a0m7c01fmf79h0hg6dtn079cqu@xxxxxxx>:

On Fri, 19 May 2006 23:32:28 +0100, Bootlaces <bootlaces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Whilst perambulating through uk.rec.walking
I noticed <amacmil304@xxxxxxx>
had opined on Fri, 19 May 2006 23:18:21 +0100
in <news:jsgs62dggv3dqofbp6ma0f8ij3qc46v9ne@xxxxxxx>:

On 19 May 2006 09:43:39 -0700, steviephilips@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


People
should be covered for their normal day to day activities but if you
choose to go out into the wilds you should pay for the consequences of
your actions.

If you intend a system whereby people are given a 'heavy fine' for not
being in possession of a licence\insurance you need an accurate
definition of what is 'inaccessible' or the 'wilds' .

So what is\are those accurate definition(s) ?

Recreational walkers in places not accessible by normal emergency land
vehicles and/or requiring assistance by SAR helicopters.

You appear to be discrimating against recreational walkers.

Not at all. What I am saying is that recreational walkers should
contribute to the cost of their activity. Most other recreational
activities cost something; why shouldn't walking and at less than £2 a
week I am hardly discriminating against them.

I do not accept your assertion "Most other recreational
activities cost something."; I still see this as 'unproven'.

Climbing? Bird watching? Fell running? Sea fishing?

I think I'll take up bird watching. On the moors and hills.

Or classify myself as a very slow fell runner :-P

Perhaps these those who engage in these activities should also pay
something. Thanks for pointing them out.

Angus, there are more. Which goes to someway to demonstrate that your
assetion of "Most other recreational activities cost something." is not
as correct as you think.

Like?

Do your own homework. I've already quoted a few more activities which
you said "Thanks for pointing them out."

So is a bigger picture starting to emerge that all those who engage in
countryside recreational activities pay something towards the upkeep
of the countryside? After all there's no formal upkeep in place and I
think most would agree it is needed.

There's another of your unsupported assertioms!


By those on this ng but perhaps not by the government in the longer
term.

How can you make that conclusion? Without supporting information is is
just your say-so.

The fee could also cover all for SAR.

Beachcombing? Off-road biking?


Perhaps both.

Should general medical emergencies be charged if they end up being
transported in a Forces helicopter?

Not at all.

I thought you said you wasn't discriminating?

--
Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, some only gargle.
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