Re: Rose and Crown?
- From: "Steve b" <stevebarnett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:17:07 GMT
"Higgypop" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > It also seems strange the pub hasn't appeared on any of the recent
photos
> > of the complex if it still exists (or ever existed). The classic coffee
> > machine from the canteen is popular and even appears on the MOD website.
>
> Exactly, it's not there.
>
>
> > "John Doherty was one of the engineers who built the bunker 100ft
beneath
> > the
> > ground in an old quarry. He said: "You could just open the door of the
pub
> > and
> > walk in off the pavement. It had a large front window. But how they were
> > going
> > to get the beer down there I didn't know."
>
> The quote you have given abpve comes from a book by Duncan Campbell, isn't
> he a mad conspiracy theorist who's in to UFOs?
> I wouldn't take anything he has to say to seriously... although I may be
> wrong, I'm just speculating.
>
>
> > There is a map linked from the same article which shows the "Rose and
> > Crown" on Main Road between the telephone exchange (which seems to be
> > area 8) and Passenger Lift 2.
> > <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/archive/graphics/1999/01/06/bunker.gif>
> > However another map:
> > <http://www.chocolatechipdesign.co.uk/nettleden/burlington/map.shtml>
> > shows this as being the "infirmary" (the 1942 map of Spring Quarry
> > reproduced
> > in "Secret Underground Cities" also shows this as an "ambulance
station").
> > The only map with a scale (the 1942 one) shows this area to be something
> > like 100ft by 50ft, perhaps rather large for a pub. The Red Lion is
quite
> > small with a bay window, if I remember correctly.
>
> The area marked on the 1942 map as "pub" is deffinatly the hospital, as
you
> say, it's too big for a pub - this would be a big area to set aside for a
> recreational facility when they could just server alcohol in the
canteen...
> if at all.
>
>
> > The maps have many differences and show the PM and main canteen in
> > quite different areas. It is possible that the maps date from different
> > time periods or that one is more reliable than the other.
>
> I can't promise the map on my website is totally accurate but it is near
> enough right and more accurate than the 1942 one as far as I am aware.
>
>
> > Maybe the whole thing is just some joke dating back many years or a
> > suggestion
> > which never happened?
>
> Possibly, I'm also wondering if it could be speculation started up by this
> website (which details are often quoted from in news reports)...
> http://www.corshamtown.co.uk/burlington.html
>
> A great bit of research there though Steve!
>
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The BBC News story I referred to was the source quoted by Zoidberg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4421786.stm
I take your point entirely that this could be just a piece of lazy
journalism quoting from the Corsham website but I couldn't say one way or
the other. Duncan Campbell, BTW, isn't a involved in any way in mad UFO
conspiracies. He is a journalist who has been a thorn in the side of many UK
governments in terms of exposing the complete inadequacies of Civil Defence
in his book "War Plan UK", the build up of US forces in the UK in
"Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier", the existence of a government interception
station used to eavesdrop on phone calls to and from Eire, etc etc. It was
Duncan's work which originally interested me in the whole subject of things
"underground."
Steve b
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