Re: Merstham football field OPEN?

Stop moaning Andy... if it's open it will be obvious.. if it's closed it
will be obvious.. if there is no fence/gate/signs then i will just walk
in... thanks for your concern :p

Steve (unlegit and totally unregulated/uninsured urb-exer)

"Andy" <ndnd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1121043898.388697.139200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Interesting...
> I am Andy Belcher and I am seriously not impressed with this posting.
>
> It would seem that the person who posted this did not bother to get
> their facts right!
>
> Firstly this information is not available in the public domain which
> means someone has access to info they should not have.
> (If this info is visible publicly it shouldn't be and will therefore be
> due to an error on my part, I would very much like the URL of the
> offending page so that I can repair/remove it, if anyone can oblige me
> here?)
>
> The situation at QD/FF is potentially litigious, to post incorrect
> facts and include specific names against them is out of order.
>
> So, for the record and to put our mis-informed friend straight...
>
> Yes, Andy and Trevor did indeed enter this site to take pictures...
> This was on 30th November 2004.
> At the time there were no restrictions on access, this did not happen
> until February 2005.
>
> To the best of my knowledge no one has accessed either site since that
> date, we were told to stay off by the land-owners and as a bona-fide
> and well-respected local caving club (as opposed to semi-legit and
> totally unregulated/uninsured urb-exers) we complied.
>
> So QD and FF have NOT, REPEAT __NOT__ been re-opened. If the owners
> (who are regular 'net users) see the above posting then the odds on
> ever getting back in there will change from negligible to
> non-existant!!
>
> Thanks 'mate' !!
>
>>>Were WCMS keeping this quiet until after the NAMHO trip?
> Say what?!!
>
> This implies that we are somehow duty bound to share any such info with
> all comers, especially idiots who make incorrect statements against
> people's names on a public forum.
> FYI - there are quite a few underground sites in the North Surrey area,
> some very extensive which WCMS look after. Quite a few of these are
> earmarked 'no publicity'. Not because we are secretive, by and large
> we are not, but because the owners have requested this. It is their
> sites that we enter by their good grace, naturally we don't bite the
> hand that feeds us and bend over backwards to comply.
>
> I should also point out to our ill-informed friend that QD/FF are not
> included on the NAMHO field-trip schedule. There is a surface walk,
> however this does not trespass onto the site, we can walk along the
> public and permissory paths to either side (which they do not own) and
> see all of the relevant features from there. (Indeed some of the main
> features of the old plateway route aren't actually at QD anyway)
>
> Trips can be arranged to any accessible sites looked after by WCMS
> simply by emailing me { trips [AT] wcms [DOT] org [DOT] uk } (or other
> WCMS members) and asking. I spend a good deal of my free time showing
> people around the Surrey Mines, something that I personally enjoy doing
> and that we as a club are happy to do else there is little point in
> looking after these sites and maintaining a relatively high profile.
>
> If you want access to any site just ask.
>
> Anyway, I very much want to talk to whoever posted this...
> If there are any WCMS, KURG or SubBrit members out there who know who
> this person is I would very much appreciate an email or phone call (in
> confidence if you wish)
>
> To the person who posted it: Please email me off-board (use the 'trips'
> address above) so we can exchange phone numbers - I want to talk to you
> or arrange a meeting if you are reasonably local.
>


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