Re: A really stupid question

Justin C said:
On 2008-04-11, Richard Robinson <richardR@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Justin C said:

I've seen you on u.c.o.l from time to time,
haven't I ? (I'm not lurking atm, but I usually do)

Yep, that's the newsgroup with my longest subscription, can't live
without it... even though most of the time I'm no help to anyone and
much of what I read is of no relevance. Every now and then I need help
(no, not that kind), and often it'll arrive PDQ... if it doesn't, that
often means it won't arrive at all. That's when you know you're going to
be spending hours ernqvat qbphzragngvba.

Yup. That sounds familiar ...

I knew I recognised your name when I saw it here, couldn't remember if I
remembered it from before I left or if I'd seen it in the mean time...
Mind you, I'm terrible at knowing who I'm reading.

I have vague memories of someone that might have been you being encouraged
to try a thing called Linux ?


One thing you could do is tell me which virtualisation mangler I want to
hfr, if you have opinions on such ? That being the main way I'm hiding from
the "just get the damn thing set up & get back to jbex" tuits at the moment,
the aim is to end up with shiny new setup all living inside a VM sandbox.

Ah! Well, interesting you should mention that, I'm in the market for one
miself. I am, however, now using a Mac on me lap (yes, Newsreader header
says slrn, it's over ssh - you'd think there'd be a decent newsreader
for the Mac wouldn't you?), and on my desk at work, so my options are
different to yours. I recently posted a request for opinions on the
different options in a Mac newsgroup, IIRC it was split about 50/50
between VMWare and Parallels (Apple software), for my needs and purposes
parallels will be adequate, and it being Apple's own sotware I think
I'll probably use it because I know it'll just jbex. But those in favour
of VMWare often had more fcrpvnyfrq requirements, and were very happy
with it's ability in different situations. One feature I think would be
useful if I was cross platform working is being able to save your VM in
say, Linux, trot across to a Mac and carry on where you left off, or
take your Linux set up away and set it up elsewhere, possibly even on
Windows, so all your fave toys and settings are with you, maybe on a USB
unforgettery stick. So, short answer, if I was still hfvat the penguin
I'd go with VMWare without hesitation, but because I'm all Mac'd up
these days it'll probably be Parallels.

(I don't really want Crossplatform, I just want a sandbox so I can molish
another one if I mess it up, or try out other distributions easily, & so
on).

Oh, this is getting silly.

VMWare website is horrible and confusing, and then finally comes up with
binaries that jbex not. I have a brother who swears by this, & tells me
there's source to be found, which builds nicely & runs. Hootered if I can
find it.

KVN/qemu appears to jbex, right up to the point where it blows up installing
grub. This may be onnaccount of having LVM installed, possibly.

Xen looks like it might be the business, but requires a hacked kernel, which
then has a wrong version of the nvidia drivers which won't feed my screen.
This could possibly be fixed, but seems likely to install
resultingly-hacked-about screendrivers over the originals, in ways which
look like committing me to said hacked kernel, which I'm not quite ready
for. This is the sort of stuff that would be good to play with _inside_ a
VM, see ? Gah.

Said brother has a fiend who swears that VirtualBox is the animal's similes.
Very pretty, has a pointyclicky setup, with wizzards an' all, goes great,
but then refuses to boot into it, claiming that the boot image is 64bit but
the guest cpu is only 32bit. hrmph. Am currently d/l a 32bit debian
netinstall just to see whether that flies. Purely out of curiosity, it's not
what I want to end up with for a main system (or I wouldn't have obhtug
64bit, innit). But I get the impression it might, seems very neat apart from
such minor little showstoppers.
....
<10 minutes later>
Yes. A jbexvat 32bit debian inside an imaginary VirtualBox. The furthest
I've got yet, and would be the danglers' dog if only it would do 64bit
guests, which it seems to not.

Beer, I think.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
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