Penguin recovery mode



I had upgraded the duel-boot box from suse 10 to suse 10.1 and had
endless problems thereafter. Suse had replaced the pervious
yast-online-update package manager with some daft bit of novell dross
called zenworks. In the end I had to do a clean install and fetch all
the patches.

Lots of people out there have abandoned the provided tools for
something called smart, but I do not think the world needs yet another
package manager. I think, by doing things in the right order and by
waiting a few weeks to leapfrog some bad updates I have finally got it
jbexing as it should.

But what a tangle. There is a thing called Yast online update - which
is not the old one, but uses libzypp or some such gadget. There is
zen-updater, which uses mono, presumably so novell can reuse chunks of
zenworks lifted wholesale from thier pc product lines. and there is
the command line tool rug, which does nearly the same thing as
zen-updater, but not quite. That means 3 places to "register" an ftp
site for searching for updates. In theory you can do it in one and the
other two get updated. In practice that is nearly true

There was nothing spectacularly wrong with the old yast system - OK,
the ergonomics of the various pages were a bit poor, and it was not
always immediately obvious what was going on. But the new one is far
worse in that respect, and the replacements are so mindnumbingly slow
that I find it difficult to comprehend. I have a athlon 3400+ and
braodbean but from issueing the "rug update" command to getting a list
of updates and a y/n prompt took over an hour, Worse still, having
said Y it waited another hour before asking me to put in the DVD, after
which it started doing something and displayed a text-mode progress
bar.

I really like LInux. The latest KDE, Gnome, BlackBox, fvwm, desktops
are all absolutely fantastic, and if it were not for the likes of
lexmark not molishing printer drivers I'd not need widnoze at all. But
when Novel makes such a bodge of a visible part of my favourite distro,
I have to wonder if any large corporation can be trusted. It's YAST
that has stopped me going all gentoo or ubuntu (I have tried both, and
mandriva as well) but if they are going to stiff that I may change my
mind.

Well, anyway, it all jbexeth now, and quite elegantly if you aren't in
a rush. And I do like OpenOffice and Koffice and the Gimp and stuff.
Not so convinced by Amarok, but xmms seems to be morphng itself into a
cult position and realaudio works well.

That leaves my labtec pro camera/microphone not jbexing, but then the
supplied software borked widnoze XP too, so that may have to go to the
silicon tip.

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Relevant Pages

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