Re: Home-Group Agreements

In article <gfjbi3trei33hcubpgcg8fogejrh2n3au5@xxxxxxx>,
Ewan Scott <ewanscott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:05:20 +0100, James Bentall <me@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

If I am running a troop of 30+ odd kids and one or more of them is
disrupting the meeting then I do not have time to interrupt the meeting,
sit down and reason with them - I need to remove him from the situation.
Quite often, that means for them to go home. I run a three strikes and
you're out system which the young people know and understand - if you
get 3 warnings during a meeting you are going home.

Each to their own. You set three strikes, you set a target for them...

Yes, and this wouldn't work at school (although we do use a similar
system!) because they have to go to school. But if they have chosen to
come to scouts, then why would they try and get the 3 strikes to get
sent home? Not attention seeking, cos as soon as they have got the third
they are out of the door...

I certainly do not see myself as a failure if I have to send a kid home.
I am a volunteer, I am there to engage and to offer the YP new
opportunities, learn new skills, have fun etc however you look at it,
but if the YP do not want to take advantage of those opportunities well
then they don't have to - the choice is theirs, not mine.

If I send a kid home, which I won't, I see it as a failure on my part
to get the message across. I do have another issue with sending kids
home. The only way to do so safely is to have the kid collected. Which
is tantamount to telling Mum and Dad why and results in that breach of
trust.

When I send a kid home, actually I tell them to go into the office and
phone their parent to come and pick them up. Can't stop the meeting to
spend 2 mins on a phone to a parent either! If there's no one at home,
or the kid claims there is no one at home (haven't got the time to
check) they can sit in the office until home time- it's amazing how many
magically manage to remember a different number after a few minutes of
boredom...)

If an individual takes time to discipline, he takes it from the rest.
They will soon punish him themselves - one way or another.

But that is surely playing up to attention seekers? I can think of
several young people I have had over the years who would love to stop
the meeting and be told off delaying everyone else.

YiS

James

--
James Bentall - SL North Mymms Scouts
http://www.nmscouts.org.uk
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