Re: CRBs for all Trustees?

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:25:05 +0100, marc
<initialdotsurname@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ewan Scott wrote:


For goodness sake. Why see it as an issue of trust? It is an issue of
reinforcing security. It happens all the time. If there is nothing to
hide then it isn't a problem so long as they don't want us to pay for
the privelige.


Why see it as an issue of trust? Because I do! I see that the local
management trust the CRB more than they trust local leaders or
themselves. And because they do trust the CRB more how long is it before
they start letting their guard slip, howe long before the mindset
arrives of "The CRB checked him , he must be alright!"? How long before
the yellow card stops mentioning "suspicions" because everyone has been
CRB checked?

If that is how you see it then so be it. I see it only as one element
on the toolbox. Since those who have been unmasked in the past have
almost always shown no signs of their tendency to their peers, I think
that peer monotiriing alone is at best, questionable.


The CRB check is an aid to recruitment, nothing more , to use it as
anythign else is wastefull and creates distortions. If there are
problems elsewhere in identifying people who should be workign with YP
the CRb shouldn't be used as a sticking plaster soloution.

It is an aid to security, not recruitment. CRB does nothing to attract
anyone to anything, it is a tool that is used to improve our security.

If you believe that your local Scout hierarchy is being lacksadasical
and relying solely upon the CRB as a check on adults, then you would
be right to complain. It does seem odd that you see the CRB being
asked of you as a sign of a lack of trust in you, yet you are happy to
expect other leaders to monitor your actions and view all other
leaders as potential abusers without seeing that as a lack of trust.

I watch my own Leaders, I have raised isues about other leaders more
than once - it doesn't make you popular and because you are the only
person to comment on their actions you are held at a distance by
others. Perr monitoring is unsatisfactory at best, corrupt at worst.
Something else needs to be used as a disinterested control at the
moment CRB is the best on offer.

Ewan Scott

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