Re: Meeting Night Scouts


"Eddie Langdown" <the3lang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We appear to be fulfilling a need for these people but it is not what I
would call Scouting. Fortunately, the rest of the troop are better to
varying degrees and many want to take part in activities parents
permitting.

My question to the group though is what do you do with Scouts like
this -
do
you manage to get them more involved, do you accept it.

DaveB

I guess it depends on what you / he means by 'Having a bit of a laugh.'

I make sure that everything we do has a big dose of fun in it....
but it has to be respectful fun, I really will not stand kids not pulling
their weight in a team activity, or under-mining what others are doing,

So how do you deal with those that are/do.

laughing behind their hands, generally taking the piss. Just won't have
it.
When you get back from a day on the water, or a camp, I simply remind
them,

Some of these never do anything outside a troop night.

"All the stuff has to be unloaded and put away and I don't expect anyone
to
stop work until I do."
I find that the seeds of cooperative scouting are sewn in the troop room.
However, I also will not make kids play silly childish games or do stuff
simply for the sake of doing it, so they don't have reason to take the
piss.
I don't make kids stand in line very much, wear uniform in public, we
don't
have inspection, but if we do something, we all do and we do it well.
Behaviour has to be 100%. And we give tons of praise.
so far... it is working.

That is where we are struggling - we have tried waiting, doing things with
those that are co-operative etc.


In our Cub Pack there are a few kids who seem to come along simply to
disrupt meetings, it totally ruins it for the really keen ones, and the
keen
ones leave, and not leaders are leaving.

OK, so you are not saying these people disrupt stuff, but if they are just
'passengers', what will happen when they have to lead a hike or a camp?


Thats the point they never will.
If it is a troop night activity and they don't want to do it they will just
talk or if a wide game sit down and refuse to join in to talk with their
friends.

They don't go on the camps, hikes, climbing, sailing, backwoods, cycling etc
so will never have the responsibillity.

The thing is these kids are not "thick" IF you can get them to act right in
their heads they are quite intellegent and scouts is a way to let off steam
with their mates under an umberella that their parents are happy with. i.e.
not hanging around street corners.

Eddie Langdown GSL 16th Bermondsey, London
http://bermondseyscout.co.uk/



DaveB
West Yorks


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