Re: The Latest from Simon Carter

On 16 Mar 2006 02:31:51 -0800, "chris.5th" <chris.5th@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Ewan, I remember that you got very cross when i said that i paid the
membership fee of 4 15-17 yr olds who come along and help out
occasionally from camp fees etc. (they don't want to be explorers,
they have full and active lives outside scouts and explorers didn't
appeal) My theory was that camps would be difficult to run without
them and their help was invaluable. They put up tents, took down tents,
made tea, cooked breakfasts, ran games, looked after little ones and so
on. Much like your fellowship do.

The way the Scout association works means that I have to run a mini
fellowship of teenagers regirsterd as explorer scouts to allow them to
come along and help me... it works, and everybody is happy, The only
difference between you and me is that my helpers are teenagers and
yours are adults.

Unless fellowship members can be under 18? that would solve all the
problems... i'll have to check...

That is/was a very different situation. We can have explorers who turn
up on an infrequent basios and we ask that they pay capitation, plus
their membership fees.

To have their peers turn up for possibly just as many events and
activities and NOT pay fees is palplaby unfair. You make a fine
distinction between these "non-Scouts" and those who play by the book.

I actually have an issue with Leaders who bring their kids along to
every meeting and activty but the kids refuse to join Scouts, yet do
everything anyway. That's not right. They should join up, wear the
uniform and pay as they go. How each group deals with subs for
leaders' kids is up to them. At least that way whatever approach is
taken shows up in the accounts and if people don't like it they can
have their say. Should they choose to waive fees then that is up to
them, but to have kids along on any regular basis and not have them as
members is not quite right.

I'm all for encouraging people to join/ remain in the movement/ help
in whatever way we can, but having a situation where kids who could
and should be inside the movement are allowed to "play" but remain
outside, isn't right.

I must try and remember that when people read posts they often put in
their own inflection. I was being frank.

Ewan Scott
.

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