Re: The Nelson analogy


"Martin Whelan" <martin.whelan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> rr wrote:
>
>> Certainly no appointment committee can issue a group warrant as ESL It
>> is fundermentally different from the group structure were used to. We
>> have gone from 49 venture scouts in 7 groups to 65 explorers in 4 sub
>> units of the explorers of which 26 are young leaders , its working much
>> better and all the other youth sections have increased accross the
>> district.
>>
>
> Sorry its a while since I had a warrent, but aren't they in the name of
> the district with the group listed inside? So all warrents (except
> County/Area/Island/HQ ones) are issue in the name of the district from
> what I remember.

No. All warranted appointments are made by HQ. The warrant is made out to a
person serving in an appointment within the district given on the warrant.
The actual appointment is specified on the inside of the warrant.

Thus the warrant is issued by HQ to a person serving a warranted appointment
in a district (or county/area as you say). On receipt of the warrant by the
district, a district officer (usually the sec to the DAsC) will write in the
appointment.

Each and every appointment must go through a set procedure and receive the
appropriate approval(s).

So for a section appointment in a group, let's say SL, they are recommended
to HQ by the GSL, with the approval of any sponsoring authority (if
appropriate), and after consultation and approval by the DAsC.

For an ESL appointment, the are recommended to HQ by the DC, in consultation
with the DESC, and after consultation and approval by the DAsC.

rr is correct when s/he says that the DAsC can't write in a group
appointment for an ESL simply because none exists.

Group appointments (except GSL) are made on a recommendation to HQ by the
GSL. The GSL does not recommend ESL appointments, that's the preserve of the
DC.

A GSL cannot sign an AA form for an ESL appointment because they are not the
responsible/appropriate person making the recommendation to HQ. The only one
to sign an ESL AA form is the DC (or their nominee, which for an ESL will be
the DESC and never a GSL).

GAGS


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