Re: Another nail in the coffin?


"Dave Mayall" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Ewan Scott" <ewanscott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > If that were the case then I'd stand down on this, but we both know that
> > big
> > fires are just big fires, usually without rhyme nor reason.
>
> Oh, no argument on that one!
>
> > Actually, if removed by builders, as some of this stuff obviously is, it
> > is
> > controlled waste and the transporting to campsites is illegal, the
storing
> > of it in campsites is illegal, and the use of it is illegal. It is no
> > different in law than a pile of waste tyres.
>
> Actually it is different.
>
> It only becomes "waste" when nobody can make use of it.

WRONG!

A product becomes waste when it is no longer suitable for the use it is
originally intended. So a tyre with less than 1.6mm removed from a car by a
professional becomes, instantly, controlled waste ( there is one exception).
It matters not one iota that the casing can be retreaded, it is controlled
waste which can only be removed from the place of production of the waste by
someone with a waste handling certificate to a waste transfer station.
Timber offcuts are construction waste, old cardboard boxes are packaging
waste etc. The fact that someone else can make use of it is irrelevant.


> If we make an arrangement with a builder for the supply of second-hand
wood
> for use as fuel for cooking fires, it isn't waste.

It may not be waste to you, but in the eyes of the law it is. If some
jobsworth at the EA were to take an interest then anyone storing such
material would require at least a Waste Tranfer Licence. In fact, even the
product of recycled waste is still waste in the eyes of the law. Take tyres,
they get shredded, and crumbed. The crumb is a new raw material which is
sold to various producers of other goods. Until such times as that crumb is
actually incorporated in the end product it is classified as waste. A school
having a rubberised asphalt playground laid, should, in the eyes of the law,
hold a waste Transfer Licence until such times as the raw materials stored
on its premises are incorporated into the new playground surface.

The same applies to Construction and Packaging materials.

I'll grant that even in industry there is confusion about what is and isn't
waste, but as things stand, your offcuts that are of no use to a
professional builder or joiner, are classified waste.

> >> The ash will make a good fertiliser.
> >
> > No it doesn't. Fire ash is a poor fertiliser as can be witnessed from
the
> > railway embankment adjacent to our site which has the remnants of 75
years
> > of steam engine fireboxes being cleared
>
> There is a big difference between coal cinders, and fine white wood ash.

I notice you cut the 25 years of our bonfire ash from that statement. Fine
white wood ash has had no positive impact on the growth on our embankment.


Ewan Scott


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