Re: Bavarias - reply to all.


"PyroJames" <drpyrojames@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:22:43 +0100, "Duncan Heenan"
> <duncanheenan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>"PyroJames" <drpyrojames@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> On 19 Oct 2005 16:55:41 -0700, "peter" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Alan Frame wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I think we[1] might be approaching this from the wrong
>>>>> direction:
>>>>>
>>>>> Given a budget of $FOO+3K GPB, where ($FOO == price of new[2] Bav),
>>>>> what
>>>>> other *new* (or <2yo) boats would the gallery buy/recommend instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that the answer to /that/ question is probably Bavaria - or
>>>>> the BenJen alternatives...
>>>>
>>>>I don't know exactly what new Bavs go for, but guessing at say 75K for
>>>>a 33ft by the time you've kitted it out, for my money I would much
>>>>rather have this: http://tinyurl.com/dp7d7 (stretching the 2 years
>>>>just a little bit). Not as spacious as an equivalent length Bav, but
>>>>far more enjoyable to own and sail IMO
>>>
>>> For 75k, I'd be going for somthing like this..
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/7g92v
>>
>>And you'd probably have to spend about £75k pa on maintenace too.
>>
>
> And what makes you qualified to make a comment like that?

Qualified? Well a bit perhaps.
As a Chartered Accountant, with KPMG (then Peat, Marwick, Mitchell) I was
auditor to Port Hamble, Mercury Yacht Harbour (then part of the Rank
Organisation), and Fairey Marine (which has since become Hamble Point
Marina), in the 1970's. I saw the economics of boat ownership, marina
operation and boatyard operation up close. Later, working for the venture
capital organisation 3i (then ICFC), in Southampton we actually owned shares
in a number of boating enterprises, (including Westerly), and evaluated
dozens every year [...tune of Howard's Way fades in and out again...]. I
admit I haven't ever owned a wooden classic boat, but that's because I've
seen from the boatyard point of view what it costs to keep them in good
shape (you should have seen what it cost Ted Heath to run the wooden Morning
Cloud in 1974/5/6!!). I have however owned 3 GRP boats, having brought one
in to code to help establish a sailing school with it.
OK, so £75k pa may be an exaggeration for effect, but I think the point is
valid that old, wooden boats cost a hell of a lot to keep in good order,
both in time and money.
Does that help?

Money does not need to be soaked in liquid oxygen to burn - just buy a
classic boat.


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