Re: Bavarias.

Alan Frame wrote:
> Dan <danny_deever2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Pete Verdon wrote:
>>> Dan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ahhh. I see. I know plenty of people who do slag them off for being
>>>> cheap and flimsy, unseaworthy etc.
>>>
>>> I would say that they are of lower quality than some other makes,
>>> but as they're significantly cheaper that's hardly surprising.
>>> Taking both into account, ie *value*, I suspect they're pretty good.
>>>
>>> I probably wouldn't buy one, but I suspect I'm an awful snob :-)
>>
>> Good. That's what everyone says. I was hoping someone could go
>> further and say *why* with some specific examples.
>
> I'll give it a shot:
>
> Walk round a marina.
>
> Look at the boats there.
>
> Look at the shapes.
> (Do you care about shapes?)
>
> Look at the winches.
> (Do you care about the size of the winches? Might you want/need to
> depend on them as strong points for springs in a blow/bridle in a
> tow?)
>
> Look at the bows.
> (Do you care for a plumb stem, or prefer a spoon bow?)
>
> Look at the stern.
> (Do you want a sugar scoop or an overhang?)
>
> Consider _Niebla_ from http://www.fairlierestorations.com/
> (Did you see that at SIBS?)
>
> Does your SO restrict your budget and demand a *brand new* 'cheap'
> boat. (Barrett Executive Starter Home or tumbledown(tumblehome ;-)
> stone cottage? - New Frod Focus or 5yo, err, BMW 5-series[0])
>
> Do you care about a high "RAF"[1]?
>
> They *do* provide a 'lot of boat for the money', but....
>
> ObRealSnob: How many Bavs do you see with windvane self-steering?
>
> HTH, Alan
> [0] <ding> I was trying soo hard to avoid the car analogy - feel free
> to suggest what my 1990 Hunter 27[2] corresponds to...
> [1] Row Away Factor - when you row away from it do you think "Jings!
> That's a good looking boat - bet it sails well"? - Disclaimer: I ride
> a Ducati 748, and still enjoy walking back to where I've parked it.
> [2] Comparatively cheap, comparatively flimsy & comparatively
> unseaworthy - depending on what you compare it with - comparing it
> with, say an HR 42 at >10 times the price is to miss the point - my
> 748 is carp at carrying a wardrobe home from Ikea.

So long as nobody sees you off-loading something from Ikea. Use an old sheet
to cover the item.

!950-1960 Leicas are fetching £800 on Ebay. They look lovely on the
mantleshelf, and you can take pictures of them reposing thereon, using your
Nikon Coolpix.

Cars are different. My 9-year-old 5 series with only 57K on the clock runs
(and looks) much better than my neighbour's 2-year-old XJ series with 110K
on the clock. That's because it IS better!


Dennis.


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