Re: OT: apostrophe's



I don't doubt that the result of this exchange is going to be a pompous
and self-important 'plonk', so feel free to do so now.

Champ <nchamp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On May 31, 1:10 pm, d...@xxxxxxxx (des) wrote:

<snip>

As I said earlier, it's really no suprise that someone with a
persection complex as deep as yours has chosen to ally yourself with
Israel. You're made for each other.

I do not have a 'persecution complex', and the Jews in general do not
have a 'persecution complex'. I am attacked on this newsgroup, not for
what I post, but for who I am. The proof of this? Well, take a quick
look at this, for example ...

http://minilien.fr/a0kcrx

_Literally_ a day after I came back to UKRM. I'd had time to post one
or two sentences, IIRC. Where I'm concerned, UKRM hasn't changed. It's
a 'licence to abuse', and when I retaliate, I'm accused of being a
'troll'. Basically, 'Des, shut up and take the abuse'. We have one
wanker who boasts that he 'killfiles [me] on contact'. Now be honest ..
ask yourself for a second what would happen if I stated that,
irrespective of a person's behaviour, I systematically killfiled him.
What would be the result of that?

As for the Jews, how can you call it a 'persecution *complex*'?
'Complex' would indicate that it's somehow 'imagined', would it not?
Did we imagine the pogroms? Did we imagine the Shoah? Do we imagine
the calls for the obliteration of Eretz? Did we imagine the threatening
phone calls on Tuesday afternoon, that resulted in ten Jewish schools in
Paris being evacuated (mine wasn't involved) ? Did I imagine the fucker
calling me a 'dirty Jew' on the rue de la Gaieté at 2 pm on 30 April
2006, just because I was wearing my kippa? Did I imagine the Canadian
neo-Nazi on AADP who's been trying to get my address for ten years? Do
I imagine the three-metre high fences around the school, the security
guards, and the controlled entry system at the school? Do I imagine the
two police vans and the dozen CRS riot police who are _permanently_
stationed in front of the Synagogue de la Victoire, whereas the Grande
Mosque of Paris has its doors open? Did I imagine Yohannah and Myriam,
two of my senior pupils, who had their hair pulled and who were punched
and kicked by half a dozen Arab youths in October of last year, being
called 'filthy Jews'? Did they imagine the molotov cocktails that were
thrown into the playground in February of 2005 (before I worked there)?

All this is imaginary, I suppose ?

As Golda Meir said: 'there is no such thing as a Palestinian people'.

"Well, she would say that, wouldn't she"

If I may paraphrase your words of a day or so ago, if you want to refute
my argument, please show me evidence that a Palestinian people existed.
Where was their capital? What was their currency? Who was their
President? With which countries did they engage in trade? Where are
the historical traces of their existence? Since massive Jewish
immigration didn't really begin until the beginning of the last century,
no one can claim that the Jews massacred the 'Palestinian people'. So
where are the traces of their existence in Palestine, can you show them
to me?

You won't be able to, for the Palestinian 'people' are pure fiction. An
invention of the last century, to pressure for the destruction of the
Jews, and to hoodwink the West. There is historical proof of a Jewish
presence in Jerusalem from > fifteen hundred years before Islam existed.
There is _no_ credible evidence that the Palestinian 'people' existed
before the PLO conjured them up from nowhere.

I will admit that Golda Meir is one of two people I'd have loved to meet
before their death (the other being François Mitterand), but her words
are irrefutable. Unless, that is, you can find evidence .......

Please .. _read_ Educate yourself, and open your eyes to the
disinformation and libel that is still perpetrated upon a Western
electorate in whom sadly, anti-Semitism is still not dead.

Being anti-zionist is not the same as being anti-semitic

Sionism is the belief in a Jewish homeland, as first espoused by Theodor
Herzl in 1897 at the first Zionist Congress. Denial of that belief, is
in itself a denial of what _makes_ a Jew, for the links with the area
known as Palestine are _visceral_, even for those of us who have never
set foot there. I have yet to meet an anti-Sionist, who wasn't also an
anti-Semite, even though they vigourously deny it (often to themselves).

D.

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