Re: Lathes and so forth.



PR,
Immediately below this thread is some out and out spamming, something about
fashion design, at least my post was to the point.
Now it would appear that you are happy to accept that prices of machine
tools in UK are way above what you would pay in the US - but there an awful
lot of people in Britain that don't have access to large sums of cash. You'd
be surprised at the number of pensioners in particular who have taken up the
hobby or come back to it after years because it's becoming affordable. A
typical example is an 83 year old experienced machinist who purchased a
mini-lathe and mini-mill from the said 'dodgy 'Arry'. He now wants a machine
that's due within the next 2 months and an approximate price of £385 was
quoted - he sent a scan of a brochure from one of the big UK suppliers for
the self-same machine - £635!!! he was sure the price was wrong. But it
wasn't - simply a case of the margins that people choose to work on.
OK, I put my hands up - it's pretty obvious it's me - but, it takes all
sorts as they say - I know blatant advertising offends, and I truly
apologise for that but there are also many that appreciate the leads.
Let me know if you're ever around the Watford Gap area as I've got a nice
little cnc-machine for you - 'arf price mate - gotta be cash only though! -
No.joking apart, anyone can come and see the machines before purchase,
you'll see that they are identical to what's on offer elsewhere but cheaper
by up to 35%- what's wrong with that?
btw, I'm a retired pharmacist - 30 odd years of professional life - never
got struck off! - I don't do dodgy deals, OK?
Let me tell you something else. One boss of one UK company went to China and
demanded that one company there stops supplying me with their machine tools.
Why? pretty obvious, they don't like competition from discount sellers
taking their business away.So, one Chinese company now won't supply - it's a
well-known one - but luckily other manufacturers won't cave into the same
pressure, fortunately for the British consumer.
Take the company that you mentioned - I could import several of the machines
that they sell and retail them at half the price in their glossy brochure
and still make a profit.

As for company vehicles - well, I drive around in a battered old Honda
Integra - or rather I don't! It broke down last sunday, and in spite of a
notice to that effect, got ticketed, clamped and towed away.
I refused their generous offer of a £150 plus £40 for the pleasure of
getting it back and will be suing the local authority for immense sums of
money if they don't return my car very soon. I walk to work in the meantime.
Just hope I don't get mugged - it's well dodgy in this part of east
London!!!!!!!!!

Hugh
OK, PR, point taken I'll tone it right down - for you, and any one else
offended - but bear in mind that if, or when, prices drop substantially,
you'll have the likes of me to thank - I'm busy 7 days a week, not making a
fortune, but giving machinists and hobbyists what they want at affordable
prices.

"P Riedie" <P.Riedie.2ptuwn@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:P.Riedie.2ptuwn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hugh Wrote:
Robert,
To put things into perspective, check out the price of their
mini-lathe.
Then take a look at this:
http://tinyurl.com/326sen and I know for a fact, that the very nice
'harryuk' will let you have it for £260 off eBay.
If it's a multi-purpose machine that you want, this has to be 30-35%
below
normal retail price:
http://tinyurl.com/yokfa6
Do you really want 30% or more of your money to go on showrooms, sales
assistants, glossy brochures, vans, offices and so on? If not, then
perhaps
you should consider either second-hand (take an expert with you) or try
the
importer above. You'll save yourself a packet that can go towards
tooling.

Hugh
ps get in touch off list if you'd like some more contact details.



I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting sick of the blatent
spamming that's appearing on the group.

Even if he is a very nice man, although he could just have a cracked
mirror, I don't feel OK with buying out the back of a van in some tatty
motorway service area. It smacks of Eastenders trying to pull a fast
one.

I for one like glossy brochures, I like to see what I'm buying, I like
technical descriptions and not some half assed Ebay blurb.
More to the point I like PRESENCE. Why do you think Roger Warren at
Warco is where he is today?, because you can talk to him at the shows,
examine the goods, even run them under power in his showroom, then make
a decision.

And what's Hooray Harry got? is he going to fire up his generator in
Watford Gap car park and let you knock a few candle sticks off ?

No showrooms, no sales assistants, no glossy brochures, no vans, no
offices, can't be Del Boy, he's got a van, must be Arthur Daly Machine
Tools :eek:

PR.


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