Re: If I took a driving test today
- From: Bod <bodron57@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:01:20 +0000
Mike P wrote:
On 27 Oct, 10:54, Bod <bodro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Why stupidity? the link was different to the story.Bod wrote:Mike P wrote:Same link , nothing to do with demetia though:On 27 Oct, 10:44, Bod <bodro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Ha! I bet you enjoy the pain?Mike P wrote:This is worse than pulling teeth.On 27 Oct, 10:32, Bod <bodro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:The reason for the discrepancy, is that the pageMike P wrote:I don't know what you are reading but this is the text from theOn 27 Oct, 10:16, Bod <bodro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Correct, but then when you read into the article,Adrian wrote:Funny, when I open the link the first paragraph readsBod <bodro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> gurgled happily, sounding much likeI already commented on that link.
they were
saying:
Works fine here.No, I just gave you information that the last link didn'tOh, well, that's OK... You ran somebody over five minutes ago,If you couldn't see my follow up post where I stated that IHa! The first link was basically about overfilling wheelyIf you can't drive a web browser, I fear for your competence
bins. The
third link didn't work.
behind
the wheel.
found it,
then I fear for your competence on a computer.
but
you've found the brake pedal now.
work.I then
searched and found it.
And you still haven't got the first link to work?
Here's a snippet from the Daily Wail article:
"After decades of abiding by the law, people are
being punished for crimes such as motoring
offences or refusing to pay wheelie-bin fines".
"A judge has warned about the rising threat of dangerous elderly
drivers after an 89-year-old motorist with dementia was blamed for a
crash in which a motorcyclist died"
Mike P
it is mainly about over 40s being caught for
motoring and wheely bin offences.
It's a typical Daily Mail hyped up story.
I'm surprised you can't see that.
article in full. If you can tell me where it says anything at all
about wheelie bins, that would be most helpful..
Mike P
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A judge has warned about the rising threat of dangerous elderly
drivers after an 89-year-old motorist with dementia was blamed for a
crash in which a motorcyclist died.
Retired farmer Albert Bradley had ignored pleas from his family to
stop driving amid concerns of his poor health, Hull Crown Court was
told.
Their fears were realised when he collided with motorcyclist Brian
Emmerson, 44, who died a month later from his injuries.
But after admitting careless driving, Bradley, now 90 and suffering
from a "dementing condition", escaped with a £500 fine and a 10-year
driving ban.
Judge Michael Mettyear, the Recorder of Hull, said the law - which
allows drivers over 70 to declare themselves fit to continue motoring
- should be reviewed and warned of more such tragedies in future.
He said: "There are going to be more and more cases of very old people
driving cars, sometimes having accidents and sometimes killing people.
"There ought to be some level of public debate as to whether the
system gives safeguards to protect the innocent. I invite others more
knowledgable to discuss where something needs to be done."
The judge said there was "overwhelming" evidence that the accident
last June was Bradley's fault.
Adding: "The sympathy of the court in this case is directed entirely
to the unfortunate family and the wife of Mr Emmerson."
Mark Bury, prosecuting, said Bradley's Peugeot 306 collided with Mr
Emmerson when he was stood astride his 750cc Honda bike and waiting
for red traffic lights to change.
"Albert Bradley drove up behind him," said Mr Bury.
"For some reason Mr Bradley failed to notice the lights were on red.
He also failed to notice the motorcyclist and collided with him."
Mr Emmerson, a computer engineer, suffered a broken ankle and appeared
to recover, but he died when a blood clot in his leg, said to be
related to the accident, moved to his brain.
The court heard Bradley told police in interview the motorcyclist
collided with him and not the other way round.
The pensioner had never had a speeding or parking ticket during 50
years motoring, but his family were concerned about him driving.
Eric Elliot, QC, defending, said: "The family may well have been
worried for a little while, but it is difficult to convince the
elderly."
Bradley was remorseful and suffering depression, he said.
Outside court the victim's wife Kathy Emmerson, 48, a library
assistant from Bridlington, slammed the sentence and current licence
rules.
She said: "There should be mandatory tests for people at the age of 60
to ensure they are fit to drive."
Commenting on Bradley, she added: "That man has ruined our lives. He
has shown no remorse whatsoever and that is the punishment he gets.
"He got off on medical grounds, but I don't think he's as ill as he
makes out. He caused Brian's death and I can never forgive him." The
DVLA is carrying out a review into the medical standards required for
safe driving.
Under current rules a driving licence must be renewed at 70 and every
three years after that.
This is a form-filling process and elderly motorists do not have to
retake a test or be declared fit by a doctor.
All motorists must declare any medical condition that may affect their
fitness to be behind the wheel.
A spokesman for the Automobile Association said "outdated" laws needed
to be reviewed, but age was not necessarily a deciding factor.
"It's very hard to show that elderly drivers are more likely to be
involved in an accident than other drivers.
"It's a slight upcurve from middle age, but they are probably not as
bad as 25-year-olds and definitely not as bad as 17-year-olds. They
are more likely to be injured in an accident, but that's because they
are more frail."
A spokesman for Help The Aged said: "Good driving is a matter of
courtesy, not age. When a younger driver is found guilty of careless
driving you don't get such an outcry and I suspect older drivers are
being singled out for their age rather than their competency.
"We support non-discriminatory good practice and we encourage older
drivers to take refresher courses in conjunction with the DVLA.
"For many older drivers their car is a lifeline."
changes every now and then.
I clicked the same link just now and it reads:
Somali pirates hijack British couple's yacht as
Royal Navy launches search and rescue mission
Mike p
Bod
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-443721/Elderly-driver-dementi...
<Boggles at the stupidity on show here>
Mike P
Bod
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