Re: Pay at pump - selfish drivers

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:43:43 -0000, M............ <mmmmmmtheobvious@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Following up to Peter Hucker

then sorry, but you don't have a clue.

In your opinion. There are equal numbers of people on both sides.

No. Only those who find reality inconvenient are still in denial. Try
reading what the well informed think, something like "New Scientist"

Scientists keep coming out with contradictory results. Research is still in progress (of which I am playing a small part with distributed computing). Until they know for sure, I will not take any action.

Anyway, what about developing countries such as China?

what about them, exactly

They will not be environmentally friendly for a long time.
They are at the stage we were at decades ago with no regard for smoke belching out everywhere.

so that justifies us doing the same? More excuses.

What it means is we are a small country and what we do has very little effect compared to them. It's as silly as switching things off instead of leaving them on standby, because you save half a watt, then driving a 3.5 litre V8 to work.

For the other points you could do it that way but you risk some people
avoiding tax entirely and you will end with a *very* high rate which voters
would find unacceptable.

Who would avoid tax entirely?

think capital gains for a start. Like having your share ownership in the
company double in value. Few would escape "entirely" but thats hardly
adequate.

Why should you get taxed on capital gains? If I pay income tax for 30 years while working hard, then invest the money, I don't want to be taxed again!!!!

You got taxed on the income and you got taxed on the capital gain over and
above the income. You didn't get taxed twice although getting taxed twice
is perfectly routine (income tax/VAT for instance)

And I disagreee with the bit in brackets.

If you set income at the 75% or more level it would need to be I would go
into building (but not right now) and maximise benefits rather than wages
and realise untaxed capital gains on resale instead of a taxable income.
Anyone with inherited wealth would live off the fat of the land while
paying no tax,

The inherited wealth was earned by your dead relative and tax was paid when he earned it!

there would be a huge incentive to do anything other than
employment. People would probably opt for being paid in shares, getting
taxed once and then getting tax free income. The black economy would
mushroom.

Getting paid in shares = a salary, as does a company car.

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