Re: Speeding...


"Adrian" <toomany2cvs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Sarah" <sarah@xxxxxxxx> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

As a newish driver I'm hugely inexperienced as it is. Even if I was
more qualified I still would not make it up as I go along.

But that's _precisely_ what you are doing - but only up to a certain
point. Beyond that point, that ability seems to bugger off and leave
you. Why?

As above really. I honestly do see you point and have thought about your
post and I do find myself agreesing with you in some aspects, but in
practice I wouldn't care to chance it. At the end of the day you just
never know what laser 1000 is around the corner :) ... I couldn't afford
to higher petrol bills to speed

What "higher petrol bills"?

Erm.. the faster you go to more you use.

45 is almost certainly more fuel efficient than 30.

let alone the higher insurance from points

It's very unlikely to increase your premium.

Yes it is. I just did an insurance quote with such an offence falling into a
3 points and £60.

Premiums are based on risk. Insurers know that there's no correlation
between increased risk and recent speeding convictions - especially not
FPN ones.

The number of convictions has risen _massively_ in recent years, yet road
deaths continue to fall. Not as rapidly as they used to, though. Why,
despite massive increases in the passive safety of modern cars? Simple.

Because the emphasis has been taken off driving _safely_, and placed
firmly onto "Speed Kills". It doesn't. Only around 10% of road deaths or
serious injuries have speed in excess of the limit as a causal factor.

and no doubt my employer would be not to amused.

Do you drive for a living? If not, what would their problem be? Do you
really think every single one of your colleagues has a completely clean
licence? I've got news for you - approximately one in three licence
holders in the UK has points.

Yes I do. And my job requires no points on it. Just like everyone else in
the firm. This is checked upon getting the job and periodically afterwards..
Every 3 months. So yes all of my colleagues have a clean license. Thanks for
that statistic, heres one for you 70% of statistics are false.

What changed, other than a number-onna-stick?

Maybe the death toll from speeding cars causing deaths on a local road
near me. Since speed chane 0 fatalities or accidents for that matter.

"Speeding" doesn't increase the risk. As soon as the risk is increased,
it ceases to be speeding, and becomes a more serious offence - careless
or dangerous driving. That can - and frequently does - happen within
the limit.

Crap driving at speed does, so I agree speed has crap all to do with
safety. Its perfectly "safe" to speed and drive safely unlike the freaks
at brake and similar orginasations spout out and the same crap as a
learner is pushed into you brain you start memorising it parrot fashion
and finding yourself brainwashed an unable to think for yourself. But
like I say there could be a mobile unit somewhere, a undercover cop car
or such like just waiting to take advantage of your ability to use your
brains.

Nobody's said otherwise. But question why they do that? Is it good for
safety? No.

So why do they do it?
Who, exactly, is getting a benefit out of this?

I don;t know where the money goes.

Not us, road users, that's for sure. So why the bloody hell are we
accepting it?

Someone has to be paying for all the road maintenance that happenes, signs,
etc etc. Without seeing a financial breakdown of where it all goes its like
peeing in the wind. I don;t know for fact where its going and I can't see
how you can.


Sometimes a slower speed is put in place for a good reason.

OK, so nobody has died or been injured on that stretch of road for
ages. What changed? Apart from the limit and the introduction of a
camera. What IS that reason? What reason _can_ there be other than
safety?

The ducks crossing up ahead ?

And that wouldn't be safety related because...?

No one wants to see mrs ducky and her family get squished.

In this instance it would be a PURE money spinner.

By George, I think she's got it...

Who's George ?

Either way, you can't really justify breaking the law which is what your
suggesting and clearly stated you do. You have fun with that and hopefully
one day a talivan will catch you to. Me ... not a chance I shall not speed \
BREAK THE LAW not for you ro anyone else.

If your so against the speed limit, paint a little sign and walk around 10
downing street.



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