Re: Fewer accidents with camera detectors?

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Roger Mills wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Uno-Hoo! <Uno-Hoo@NOSPAMbigfootdotcom> wrote:

Well if the implications of young and inexperienced drivers razzing
around the countryside as fast as their cars will go doesn't frighten
you - it certainly does me.

Uno-Hoo!
When I were a lad - before motorways were invented - we had built-up areas with a 30mph limit, and de-restricted roads - and that was it! I don't recall everybody driving everywhere flat out just for the hell of it, and just because it wasn't explicitly forbidden. What *was* forbidden (as still is) was to drive dangerously. And there are many opportunities for doing that without having to exceed the current arbitrary speed limits. Equally, there are many cases where exceeding the limit is *not* dangerous.

If we *must* have limits - and I reluctantly concede that we must - they need to reflect the conditions. For example, they could vary by time of day. Some French roads have different limits depending on whether it is wet or dry. Limits would be much better respected if there was some logic behind them - rather than the current "one size fits all"!
You sound not too far removed from my age group, Roger - i.e. the crotchety old buffers' department.

But I'd rather not get into the added complexities of variable limits, depending on whether it's daylight or darkness, dry or wet roads etc. I really don't think the added complication amounts to a workable scheme.

For example roads are not just dry or wet. There are numerous variations between those extremes, and it's not simply a case of the wetter the road the more difficult the conditions, so evaluating them with reasonable accuracy is what it's all about. That means a higher level of driver capability, not easily achieved I know, but surely that is where we should trying to go.

French people seem to manage. I do hope you're not suggesting that they're superior in any way?
No, I'm not suggesting they are superior in any way. I don't know how their variable speed limit system works, but I'm not in favour of further complexity. It still can't tell you the right answer anyhow.


From what little I saw on a brief trip, the speed limit in the wet was a few kph slower than in the dry. Simple enough I'd have thought. After all, if a Frenchman can work it out surely a trueborn Englishman can?

But as I say, it's not just wet or dry, and (for those who advocate day/night speed limit variations) visibility conditions vary hugely between bright daylight and total darness.

....which should have read 'darkness' of course.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
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