Re: my pet peeve

On 29 Mar, 21:11, Adrian <toomany2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tim S Kemp (n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Can't help it if stupid person drives onto a roundabout straight from the
motorway without looking.

No, but you can see him BEFORE he gets to the roundabout, and see that he's
not planning on stopping.

Perhaps in some cases.

But not for all. In some examples, the only way you'd avoid this, is
by never committing to entering / being on a roundabout.

Can't help it if driver of 7.5 tonne van tries to overtake me while I'm
turning right.

No, but you can see him BEFORE he gets to you, and see that he's not
planning on stopping or going to your left.

That not planning on stopping thing, may not be /that/ possible to be
sure. If you regarded every driver as suspect of not overtaking you
when you are about to, and signalling to turn, there'd be a lot more
impatient and annoyed drivers out there.

If every manouvre you undertook, you had to do on the basis that other
drivers wouldn't do something completely bizarre, then you'd never
likely do anything.

Don't get me wrong - I get the point about it being possible to
perceive some things, to mitigate some things. But Tim's examples
don't sound /that/ avoidable.

Can't help it if someone piles into the back of me at traffic lights.

No, but you can see them BEFORE they get to you, and see that they're not
planning on stopping...

And if you're in a queue, on a dual carriageway, with traffic on one
side, and barriers on another? Are you suggesting that you always
leave sufficient space in front of you to move forward? How could you
always be sure it would be enough?

Now don't get me wrong - on roads with higher speed limits, or at the
end of sliproads leaving motorways, or on roads where there queue of
traffic may have formed just around a bend / over a bridge - I'll
likely hold back a bit from the end of any queue I'm joining, and be
very aware of what's approaching me from behind. But at times when my
car has been rear ended, it's been either when waiting to be able to
drive on to the roundabout - and not being able to proceed because of
traffic already there, or in a queue (with cars in front and behind
me) that's just started moving, then had to stop reasonably smartly,
because of something that's occurred some way in front.

Wrong place at wrong time. These things happen Conor, get over it.

They can be mitigated, though, and often got-out-the-way-of.

/Some/ can be mitigated, and I'll buy that some you can perhaps manage
to get out of the way - but let's not run away with the idea that
every legally / for insurance purposes non-fault accident can largely
be avoided. I see the "often" comment, but your tone implies that
Tim / or as a generalism, accidents, can be mostly avoided if you're
the target vehicle.

Anyway, wasn't the 75 a tree? What did that do?

And he's already 'fessed up to that being a driver error. At least he
has. Whilst some profess at being perfect, avoiding anything thrown at
them, at least he's willing to accept where he was at fault - I can't
help but think from reading some peoples' perception of their driving
abilities, here, that they'd ever admit to being at fault.

Perhaps some people are so perfect at driving that they never are.
Personally, I find that difficult to believe. I'd much rather read
about people who've made mistakes and learnt from them, as opposed to
people who believe (perhaps - I'm willing to accept and recognise -
correctly so) that they are superior drivers who've never made a
mistake, nor are likely to.

Just out of interest, Adrian, what factors in your driving do you
perceive you could do with improving on?

.

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