Re: Speeding is dangerous.

"Mark Foster" <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST-2832C0.11251308012006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <dpqs9e$r5d$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "David Knowles" <david.knowles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > "Mark Foster" <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST-2C3B5C.23144807012006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > In article <dpphbj$ne4$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > "David Knowles" <david.knowles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Mark Foster" <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
> > > >
news:m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST-0001E2.14452207012006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > In article <dpo6so$eua$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > > "David Knowles" <david.knowles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Alistair J Murray" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:rd3393-slk.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Ian wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He wouldn't have passed the normal driving test if he broke
> > > > > > > > the speed limit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Prior to my test my instructor told me it was better to keep
up
> > > > > > > with the traffic flow even if it meant going a bit above the
> > > > > > > limit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The examiner seemed to concur.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I honestly can't remember what was said about speed limits when
I
> > > > > > took my test on 17th September 1957, but in any case that was
the
> > > > > > normal test, not an advanced one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So far as advanced driver training organisations are concerned I
> > > > > > understand they take little notice of the NSL on their courses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Oh dear, here we go again! It is not wrong Mark.
> > >
> > > OK. Remind me... which one of the two of us has actually taken and
> > > passed tests for the two major organisations and which of us used to
> > > teach for one?
> > >
> > > Once you've answered that one please tell me which of knows what we're
> > > talking about and which of us knows absolutely *** all.
> > >
> > > > From some of the things that have been reported by people involved
in
> > > > such courses, it is quite clear that the NSL is not respected. I am
> > > > not saying by how much the NSL is exceeded, but exceeded it quite
> > > > clearly is.
> > >
> > > The only people who have an exemption to NSL for training purposes are
> > > the emergency services. There are no facilites whatsoever in this
> > > country to teach civilians beyond NSL on public roads. NONE.
> > >
> > > > > > They seem to allow a good deal of leeway with regard to speed on
> > > > > > the open road, especially in an overtaking situation. It is all
> > > > > > about making good progress in a safe and reliable fashion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up to a legal maximum. They DO NOT condone or encourage
"speeding".
> > > >
> > > > Does that mean that you know all about the attitude and policies
> > > > of *all* providers of such courses? Just for once Mark could you
> > > > please accept that you are not the supreme and unchallengeable
> > > > authority in all these matters.
> > >
> > > I am not and have never claimed to an authority but I *do* know a ***
> > > of a lot more than you, who has done absolutely ZERO courses or extra
> > > training whatsoever.
> > >
> > > HINT: Don't argue about things you know nothing about.
> >
> > Well Mark I've said previously, and quite genuinely, that I have had
> > considerable regard for your views. However, if you are going to
persist
> > with this stance of always having to be top dog, always be right, always
> > having the last word etc., I can not communicate further with you to any
> > useful purpose.
>
> It's not a case of always having to be top dog or always right. It's a
> straightforward simple FACT. You're wrong! If you can't accept that then
> that's your problem.
>
> > I know this is Usenet, but with what I have said above, and the type of
> > language you are now using in your reply to me, I shall leave others to
> > decide who is taking the more reasonable view here.
>
> If you can't deal with the way people use language this is *really* not
> the place for you.
>
> > It might not be me of course, but I'm not that bothered as far as you
> > are concerned.
>
> Taking a reasonable view has got bugger all to do with it. I'm the one
> with the first hand experience whilst you're the armchair expert. In
> this particular case, I know what I'm talking about and you don't. It's
> a FACT, you're wrong. Deal with it.
>

Mark - you may know all sorts of things that I don't, and you may also be
a very good driver, perhaps better than I am.

Even so, if your attitude and approach to your fellow road users is anything
like consistent with the way you conduct yourself here, you will be an even
better driver when you calm down a bit and gain a little more maturity.

You can have the last word if you want, as I shall not reply to you any
further. To the rest of you - my apologies.

Best wishes all,
Dave.


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